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  1. skinny guy seeking hugeness


    i'm 21 years old, 5'11, and 160 lbs....looking to get bigger.
    i've used cellmass, axis-ht, and protein (stacked the 3 together)...and it works, i just always plateau out.
    i'm looking into using h-drol...but i'm not informed enough about it to try it yet.
    basically, i just need some advice. i'm looking to weigh about 180, and have significant muscle size.
    yes, i eat enough, i consume enough protein as well. whats a good product for me that i've never tried?
    whats a good routine?
    thanks in advance.


  2. um it's called research. I would advise you to stay away from any and ALL ph's. if your asking for routines and supplemental usage you sure as heck probably dont have your diet in place. if your 5'11 and 160 pounds i seriously recommend you look at your diet before jumping into things with long term sides. the fact is that steriods have side effects and the addition that your body would not know how to handle the gains off the steroids. you'll lose your gains most likely afterwards because of poor diet, training, and experience. I recommend x-factor. a 50 day suppley ( 2 bottles ) would really help you see if your diet is in check. It's a non hormonal supplement that will inhibit PH like gains if your diet and training is good. It's good for side free gains as well as a good indicator of diet. Just thought I might throw that out to you.
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  3. thanks for getting back to me. is it safe to stack this with axis-ht, or no?
    i'm def. sticking with the cellmass and protein. thinking of going back to no-explode as well.

  4. i think its too early for you to use steroids, which hdrol is. THe problem is most likely that you are not eating enough. I know you say you are but when you add more weight to you frame and want to continue to gain you have to add more protien and calories as well. So you get you diet up then you train heavy and get adequate sleep.

  5. lets say get to 180lbs at least then maybe just maybe try a hormonal product like hdrol. Get all the basics down first.
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  6. drop the cellmass and N.O explode. I think N.O is a weak prework out supplement in the fact that you crash in the middle of your workouts. It also isnt very beneficial as a creatine either. If you need a good pre-workout supplpement something like RPM+Drive combo would be nice for you. You can throw in some Green Magnitude Creatine as I find it very cheap,tasty,and effective.
    As far as axis ht never heard of it. Ill go check it out and report back.

  7. mnn piston, i WANT your avatar

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    drop the cellmass and N.O explode. I think N.O is a weak prework out supplement in the fact that you crash in the middle of your workouts. It also isnt very beneficial as a creatine either. If you need a good pre-workout supplpement something like RPM+Drive combo would be nice for you. You can throw in some Green Magnitude Creatine as I find it very cheap,tasty,and effective.
    As far as axis ht never heard of it. Ill go check it out and report back.
    alright. but whats so bad about cellmass though?

    i'm reading about the x-factor stuff and it looks pretty good for around 40 bucks.

  9. Focus less on mass building supps, and more on penis enhancement ones instead.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Focus less on mass building supps, and more on penis enhancement ones instead.
    thanks, but i don't exactly have a problem with that. maybe you should grow up?

  11. I agree with Piston. I think it is way early on to use steroids. I think supplements would still be very benificial. But on the other hand breaking the plateau maybe something simple like changing up your diet. Raising the protien and carb levels. Sounds like you have a high metabolism. So keep eating. If you want to look at what supplements can help you check out the Log forum . . . .Trauma has a good one going about Superdrol NG fyi. Good luck bro.



    Keep Eating

  12. reaper thats what you need. denial is unhealthy buddy.

    cell you know who that is in the avy?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by JJI87 View Post
    alright. but whats so bad about cellmass though?

    i'm reading about the x-factor stuff and it looks pretty good for around 40 bucks.
    it's not 40. you NEED 2 bottles to see any results. 1 bottle doesnt get you anywhere. takes about 25 days ( 1 full bottle ) before the effect starts to kick in.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JJI87 View Post
    i'm 21 years old, 5'11, and 160 lbs....looking to get bigger.
    i've used cellmass, axis-ht, and protein (stacked the 3 together)...and it works, i just always plateau out.
    i'm looking into using h-drol...but i'm not informed enough about it to try it yet.
    basically, i just need some advice. i'm looking to weigh about 180, and have significant muscle size.
    yes, i eat enough, i consume enough protein as well. whats a good product for me that i've never tried?
    whats a good routine?
    thanks in advance.
    Look it up. My goodness, use the search button perhaps. Your not big because your lazy and want to be spoon feed muscle size like you want this information on supps. I wanted info on a CKD diet. I searched for 2 weeks before posting a thread. I'll put my bank account on your not eating nearly enough to gain weight to get to 180lbs. Sorry if im comming off harsh but this stuff happens every other day. Young kids come on here beeing cocky and want answers given to them. The humble people are the ones that get info. Look at MESSPLAY and RickeyMD. They were humble and are getting answers to what they want. TRY IT!!!! Supps are such a small portion of beeing big and strong.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jbono731 View Post
    I agree with Piston. I think it is way early on to use steroids. I think supplements would still be very benificial. But on the other hand breaking the plateau maybe something simple like changing up your diet. Raising the protien and carb levels. Sounds like you have a high metabolism. So keep eating. If you want to look at what supplements can help you check out the Log forum . . . .Trauma has a good one going about Superdrol NG fyi. Good luck bro.



    Keep Eating
    i get what you're saying bro...but its tough to do that living on the college budget..know what i mean?
    my metabolism is ridiculous. i wish there was a quick fix to slow it down..then my life would be easier. haha
    i need to come up with some cheap ways to get alot of protein and carbs in my diet.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Look it up. My goodness, use the search button perhaps. Your not big because your lazy and want to be spoon feed muscle size like you want this information on supps. I wanted info on a CKD diet. I searched for 2 weeks before posting a thread. I'll put my bank account on your not eating nearly enough to gain weight to get to 180lbs. Sorry if im comming off harsh but this stuff happens every other day. Young kids come on here beeing cocky and want answers given to them. The humble people are the ones that get info. Look at MESSPLAY and RickeyMD. They were humble and are getting answers to what they want. TRY IT!!!! Supps are such a small portion of beeing big and strong.
    question: how am i being cocky? i came on here after a year of researching, training and hardly seeing results. maybe there is someone on here who was in the same situation that i am and could possibly give me some advice?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    it's not 40. you NEED 2 bottles to see any results. 1 bottle doesnt get you anywhere. takes about 25 days ( 1 full bottle ) before the effect starts to kick in.
    i noticed that actually. well, thanks to your advice i'm definitely going to give the x-factor product a try...and i'll cut out the bsn ****.
    should i switch the cellmass with that creatine stuff you recommended?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by JJI87 View Post
    question: how am i being cocky? i came on here after a year of researching, training and hardly seeing results. maybe there is someone on here who was in the same situation that i am and could possibly give me some advice?
    A year of searching ? Whatever man, good luck in whatever you purse. :bruce3:
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative

  19. Quote Originally Posted by JJI87 View Post
    i get what you're saying bro...but its tough to do that living on the college budget..know what i mean?
    my metabolism is ridiculous. i wish there was a quick fix to slow it down..then my life would be easier. haha
    i need to come up with some cheap ways to get alot of protein and carbs in my diet.
    your metabolism can only do so much. it is impossible to put excess calories into your body and not grow. I too am an ectomorph ( hard gainer) I have a harder time putting on mass than other people but since the end of june, which is where I started adjusting my diet, I started to add mass slowly. Im up to 192 naturally. I went from 170 with a huge amount of fat and no mucles ( from a bad cutting diet then eatting junk like crazy) to where Im at now. It's not hard, you just dont know how to do it. I too am a college student. I manage.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by JJI87 View Post
    i noticed that actually. well, thanks to your advice i'm definitely going to give the x-factor product a try...and i'll cut out the bsn ****.
    should i switch the cellmass with that creatine stuff you recommended?
    definately. Guy's no need to be so harsh on him. It's understandable that he needs to search. We see the same things over and over but he hasnt. cut him some slack. I do recommend you get your diet in check before anything. x-factor is expensive ( close to 100 for 1 cycle) and without a proper diet your not going to see anything. Remember to cut down on omega-3 fats while your at it. Theres a list of things you should avoid while on x-factor to help maximize your gains. It is afterall a test of diet. good diet = gains mediocre diet= semi decent gains. poor diet = waste of money. Remember to just cut down on certian foods while on x-factor. Once your off the cycle you can eat those things agian and keep your mass as long as your diet was in check while on.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    your metabolism can only do so much. it is impossible to put excess calories into your body and not grow. I too am an ectomorph ( hard gainer) I have a harder time putting on mass than other people but since the end of june, which is where I started adjusting my diet, I started to add mass slowly. Im up to 192 naturally. I went from 170 with a huge amount of fat and no mucles ( from a bad cutting diet then eatting junk like crazy) to where Im at now. It's not hard, you just dont know how to do it. I too am a college student. I manage.
    22 lbs in 3 months def. isn't slow...well to me it isn't at least.
    hopefully i'll get your results man...steak and potatoes for dinner!

  22. What fat-containing foods are not off limits with X-Factor?

    I did the searching for you this time. If you have any questions feel free to PM me but dont make them too vauge and about things you didnt bother to research yourself. use the search button. It helps.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    What fat-containing foods are not off limits with X-Factor?

    I did the searching for you this time. If you have any questions feel free to PM me but dont make them too vauge and about things you didnt bother to research yourself. use the search button. It helps.
    thanks again bro...you were alot of help. i'll let you know how its going.

  24. I hear what you are saying man. I am in college as well. On my way to becoming a Trauma Surgeon, so I have to deal with $ restrictions for a while. But if you want it bad enough you can swing it. Try a Casein protein b4 bed. Eat before bed, and if you cant 'budget' casein protein, I eat 2 servings of non-fat cottage cheese. Which by searching the forums I found was a great alternative,bc the protein in this is very slow digesting. I still feel the problem lies in the diet just like the majority of the guys here do. Its pretty much impossible (as celardude said) to plateau by eating alot . . .especially at 21. Good luck.

  25. cool. keep us posted. don't be afraid to post your diet down and ask for help. That will help you steer torwards the right direction. Just make sure to do it in the proper section.

  26. Lets talk muscle mass
    eat bro. even before x factor which i think would be great for you in a couple months after ur diet. perhaps some fish oil and straight creatine monohydrate micronized. high dose the fish oil at like 9g a day mollecular distilled is great when high dosing. i know u are probably fond of the cell mass i was at a point with that too but it is expensive high profiled name branned creatine the tryed and true creatine is creatine monohydrate

  27. Quote Originally Posted by JJI87 View Post
    i'm 21 years old, 5'11, and 160 lbs....looking to get bigger.
    i've used cellmass, axis-ht, and protein (stacked the 3 together)...and it works, i just always plateau out.
    i'm looking into using h-drol...but i'm not informed enough about it to try it yet.
    basically, i just need some advice. i'm looking to weigh about 180, and have significant muscle size.
    yes, i eat enough, i consume enough protein as well. whats a good product for me that i've never tried?
    whats a good routine?
    thanks in advance.
    Let's get you on a good routine first. I don't know what your current routine is, but I always recommend the HST approach for beginners. It's easy to pick up on, and teaches you good training habits. I guarantee that you will notice results within the first 6 weeks. Check out their webpage for more info:
    www.hypertrophy-specific.com


    Could you possibly post up a typical day in the diet of JJI87? This will give me a better idea of what you need to work on to get huge. Creatine, supplements, steroids aren't gonna get you huge. They can only improve upon your current scheme of things, or set you up for a total disappointment.

  28. alright, here's what i'm thinking. i'm obviously starting today with eating more protein and carbs. i'm going to order some x-factor (found a good price here:
    http://www.a1supplements.com/X-Facto...FR1NUAodAFGJSg

    and stack it with creatine monohydrate and whey protein.

    i'm planning on consuming about 3000 or more calories a day.

    i'm basically starting over, which is what i think i should do anyways. quick question though: since i AM a hard-gainer, should i sub a weight gain shake for the protein shake to get extra calories AND protein?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Let's get you on a good routine first. I don't know what your current routine is, but I always recommend the HST approach for beginners. It's easy to pick up on, and teaches you good training habits. I guarantee that you will notice results within the first 6 weeks. Check out their webpage for more info:
    www.hypertrophy-specific.com


    Could you possibly post up a typical day in the diet of JJI87? This will give me a better idea of what you need to work on to get huge. Creatine, supplements, steroids aren't gonna get you huge. They can only improve upon your current scheme of things, or set you up for a total disappointment.
    well, right now, my diet is ****ty. my diet used to be good...but that was before i had to start paying for rent and tuition. i'm a broke college kid looking to gain size. i've been eating firehouse subs and ramann noodles for the past month...that obviously has to stop. although i weigh the same from when i was at my best condition (160 lbs with very noticeable muscle size)...the muscle size has dropped, and its because i'm eating crap foods.
    i'm going grocery shopping tonight...i figure with the money i save from not eating out at fast food joints so much, i can spend that on some good supplements and healthy protein-rich, nutritious foods.
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