*yawn* Lethargy on Epistane?
- 09-24-2007, 09:53 PM
*yawn* Lethargy on Epistane?
I'm pulsing Epi right now and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced lethargy while on this stuff. I've read that if Estrogen is too low, it could be a cause of lethargy, but I'd like to hear some educated opinions or experiences from other peeps that have tried Epi.
I just ordered another bottle of Reset AD, so hopefully that will help because right now I'm popping 4-9 RPMs per day on top of 70-110mg of Adderall and I'm still pretty tired all day long.
- 09-24-2007, 09:54 PM
- 09-24-2007, 10:06 PM
Other supps I'm taking are:
HDX2: 4 caps on non-Epi days
ZMA: 3 caps (recommended dosage) nightly
SuperCissusRX: 5 caps daily
XLean: 6 caps daily (just upped from 3/day to 6/day to see if I notice any difference)
RPM: 5-6 caps pre-workout
multi-vitamin & 6 grams of DHA/EPA daily
09-24-2007, 10:10 PM
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09-24-2007, 10:19 PM
BAD FOR LIVER: YES.
CHOLESTEROL PROBLEMS: YES - data unreliable; highly probable.
TYPICAL GAIN IN 1 MONTH: 10 lbs.
GAINS START: 2 days.
HAIR LOSS VERY COMMON
PROSTATE SWELLING/PAIN CAN OCCUR
TESTES SHUTDOWN: 2-3 days. <-------------
as you can see epi shuts you down fast!!! i recomend geting some dhea and take it everyday 100mg+ to add some actual test to your system to combat the lethargy.
and lower to 3x a week
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09-24-2007, 10:30 PM
09-25-2007, 03:09 AM
09-25-2007, 03:20 AM
I've been pulsing Epistane 3 times a week 20 mg pre and 20 mg post workout. I got the lethargy too but only after dosing, so during and after workout. Lethargy is totally gone the next day in my case. I'm not using stims apart from a cup of coffee here and there at the moment.
09-25-2007, 06:58 AM
I'm currently running a cycle and have major lethargy. I'm dosing at 30mgs daily.
Funny thing is I didn't have this issue during my previous cycle and nothing is different this time around.
09-25-2007, 04:23 PM
Currently pulsing epi week 4@50 mg, no ill effects to report except some slight shedding and occasional back pumps. I've been keeping my carbs high~300-400g/day. Perhaps try that. Anytime your using a "dry" compound, you need an excess of complex carbs because its shuttling glycogen to your muscle at an abnormal rate. Other than that, the results have been lovely-3.5 weeks up 8 pounds. Strength is also up considerablely.
09-25-2007, 04:26 PM
Forgot to mention: also feeling a slight "disconnected" feeling since I upped the dose to 40 and beyond. Not lethargic, but having a little trouble staying focused on school/work. I think I'll end my cycle next week for the 1st round of midterms.
09-25-2007, 04:29 PM
09-25-2007, 04:34 PM
I agree with you about the great results though - I'm up 7lbs total (+11lbs of lean mass, -4lbs fat). Loving Epistane so far.
For the record, the lethargy I'm experiencing isn't anything that's intolerable. It's just mild lethargy - particularly while I'm at work (which isn't surprising since my ass is parked at a desk all day).
09-25-2007, 06:27 PM
09-26-2007, 11:51 AM
09-26-2007, 11:55 AM
I noticed considerable lethargy when I pumped from 40 to 50mg on my pulse cylce but in alll fairness I also sit my ass at a desk for 8 hrs (aka shoot me now) and may not be getting enough carbs.
09-26-2007, 12:01 PM
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09-27-2007, 12:46 AM
So epistane is "highly androgenic" now? Thought it was supposed to be one of the milder DS's with minimal shutdown...
09-28-2007, 10:58 AM
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09-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Adderall Could Be Your Problem
10-01-2007, 08:21 AM
And when you say it "attacks the nervous system", what do you mean? It's a stimulant, so it affects the nervous system by stimulating it like all CNS's do.
10-01-2007, 08:29 AM
trip i dont know where you are getting that info but it looks like the same format as the superdrol and m1t you posted before. I disagree with the majority of it. shutdown in 2-3 days from epi?????WTF. i dont think so, based on personal experience. Who is making those profiles?
10-01-2007, 11:35 AM
10-01-2007, 11:37 AM
im interested in finding the cause man! so good luck!
10-01-2007, 12:16 PM
maybe a person begins to experience shutdown within 2-3 days dose dependent... but i highly doubt full suppression can be achieved in that amount of time, even with something as strong as M1t... but i could be wrong, i'v never had bloodwork to prove otherwies
10-01-2007, 12:17 PM
and yeah snorting adderall was a big thing in highschool, supposedly gets you all geeked like yay
10-01-2007, 12:41 PM
I'm almost 50 days into an epi pulse cycle that I'm almost done with. I worked my way up to 40mg on workout days. For the past 3 weeks, I've been dosing on Sunday, Tuesday & Friday, but prior to that, I was working out every other day, so some weeks I was @ 4 x per week, others 3 x. But those were at 30mg. I would agree with LilPsychotic that I too feel disconnected at times. Kind of in a "fog". No noticeable shutdown. I have been a bit lethargic at times, joints hurt if I don't take my cissus, but I've lost about a pound of fat while adding 8lbs of LBM. My BF% has dropped by over 1%. Strength is up too. It's been a good pulse cycle in my opinion!
10-01-2007, 08:17 PM
Everything I've read so far has led me believe that epistane is the safest DS, followed by halodrol, followed by pp, followed by superdrol, in the order of most to least safe.
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