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Old 09-24-2007, 11:12 AM   #1
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Thinking about gettin some since Storm work very well for me. Curious though it has Gree Tea Extract in it, which i assume is their caffeine additive. Anyone know how much though? Im tryin to drop caffeine and the only other i could think of was Ragnarok...Maybe. I may buy stuff to mix myself but i am to lazy. If it comes down to it i will just buy a combo of stuff to use.
 



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I do not know how much Green Tea Extract is in it. It is part of the 20g proprietary formula mix. I have used it and enjoyed it. Not too much of a caffeine buzz.
 
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I've tried my friend's WTF Pumped last weekend, it tastes pretty good except the flavor tastes like lemonade vomit.

I'm thinking about Shock Therapy or Ragnarok after I am done with MHP's Trac NO Extreme. It is OK, but I dunno I think I'm gonna try something else next. Let me know those products both look good.
 
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I've tried my friend's WTF Pumped last weekend, it tastes pretty good except the flavor tastes like lemonade vomit.

I'm thinking about Shock Therapy or Ragnarok after I am done with MHP's Trac NO Extreme. It is OK, but I dunno I think I'm gonna try something else next. Let me know those products both look good.

I can tolerate WTF well compared to somethings.
Hows about i try Shock Therapy and you try Ragnarok...?
You're goin stim free right X?
 



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I can tolerate WTF well compared to somethings.
Hows about i try Shock Therapy and you try Ragnarok...?
You're goin stim free right X?
Yeah I think that'll be a good idea and I can pick up Ragnarok in a couple weeks or so and let you know how it is. WTF Pumped has stims in it, but it wasn't too much, I had a good expierence with it honestly.

I don't mind stims in a pre-workout, but off the top of my head only Endorush and WTF Pumped I was ok with the stims. MHP's TRAC NO Extreme is stim free and decent as well.

NO-XPLODE, SuperPump250 were an overkill with stims. They just had way too much, and it caused me to crash afterwards.
 
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Yeah I think that'll be a good idea and I can pick up Ragnarok in a couple weeks or so and let you know how it is. WTF Pumped has stims in it, but it wasn't too much, I had a good expierence with it honestly.

I don't mind stims in a pre-workout, but off the top of my head only Endorush and WTF Pumped I was ok with the stims. MHP's TRAC NO Extreme is stim free and decent as well.

NO-XPLODE, SuperPump250 were an overkill with stims. They just had way too much, and it caused me to crash afterwards.
Same here, prolly get some Shock T. on my next order with the AX stuff.
I think WTF is my fav preWO thus far. Good energy and vascularity(i dont get pumps for some reason.) I think in general this is my best combo so far. Incarnate,Storm,WTF.
 



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Thinking about gettin some since Storm work very well for me. Curious though it has Gree Tea Extract in it, which i assume is their caffeine additive. Anyone know how much though? Im tryin to drop caffeine and the only other i could think of was Ragnarok...Maybe. I may buy stuff to mix myself but i am to lazy. If it comes down to it i will just buy a combo of stuff to use.
Am I looking at a different product, because Shock Therapy also has S-Methylxanthine Complex™ (Caffeine, Theobromine, Theophylline) , and Yerba Mate.

If you want to go the non-stim route look at Swell by Nimbus Nutrition or Stim Free Chaos by AI.
 
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Yeah I think that'll be a good idea and I can pick up Ragnarok in a couple weeks or so and let you know how it is. WTF Pumped has stims in it, but it wasn't too much, I had a good expierence with it honestly.

I don't mind stims in a pre-workout, but off the top of my head only Endorush and WTF Pumped I was ok with the stims. MHP's TRAC NO Extreme is stim free and decent as well.

NO-XPLODE, SuperPump250 were an overkill with stims. They just had way too much, and it caused me to crash afterwards.
I am digging White Flood & I also enjoyed SMASH by AXIS.
 
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So SMASH is pretty good then ? I'm just leery about stim pre-workouts cuz they seem to be a hit or miss for me.

WTF Pump'd has stims and fortunately it is under control which I really like.
 
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Am I looking at a different product, because Shock Therapy also has S-Methylxanthine Complex™ (Caffeine, Theobromine, Theophylline) , and Yerba Mate.

If you want to go the non-stim route look at Swell by Nimbus Nutrition or Stim Free Chaos by AI.
oh thank you, i din't cathc that the first time.
 



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I may just go with out a PreWO this time around and save the cash. Focus on nutrition cause im gettin the AX stuff and some Poseidon. Also goin to try DiCreatine Malate or SWOLE, Celldude says its pretty good stuff.
 



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I am digging White Flood & I also enjoyed SMASH by AXIS.
Im waiting on my SMASH right now. Hope it turns out to be a nice pick-me-up in the gym. Im excited to try it in conjunction with BLUE UP....XTEND...BA...and the rest of my RPM (10 pills
 
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Smash works. It works very well.
 
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i've used shock and no-xplode. shock is nice bro. work your way up to 1.5-2 scoops preworkout and its some crazy energy. the price per serving is pretty ridiculous too
 
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