Drive Beta-Testers: What did you think?
- 09-21-2007, 11:11 AM
Drive Beta-Testers: What did you think?
Applied Nutriceuticals is looking for the input of a select few individuals. Please, please, please, please...... only post in this thread if you have had the chance to test, log, or try one of the Drive betas, or the final version.
Background: We had a number of betas of Drive tested, starting a few months ago. They were better known at the time as the "Purple and Whites", or maybe you got the "Red and Whites", some of you even got the "yellow ones"..... for awhile they were even known as stim-free RPM.
There were a few lucky AM.com members who got to run one or the other, and basically all agreed that this product is much more than just a stim-free RPM.
The reports we received seemed to be pretty darn close to unanimous. (i.e AMAZING! AWESOME! SEND ME MORE!, etc.)
At this time, we're hoping to create a compilation thread of the testers and their results. If you've tried a version of Drive, please provide us with a short review. Include the version you tried, and please discuss any and all of the following you experienced: size and strength gain, libido, increases in fullness and density, lean body mass gain, and increased sense of well being, focus, aggression, that "I'm the man" feeling, anything else you feel was significant........
Everyone has heard all about it from those of us at AN.... now let's hear it from YOU, the AM.com community.
Who is you? Well here's a short list of people I'd like to call out.....
Come on doooooooooown!!!! You're the next contestants on "Review that Drive!!!!!!!!!!" :bb3:
- 09-21-2007, 11:18 AM
09-21-2007, 11:21 AM
09-21-2007, 11:24 AM
09-21-2007, 11:39 AM
I actually had a short run with the blue and white betas.
I was eating at maintenance as to judge the effects, so I didn't really gain any weight. However, the muscle fullness would have to be the most noticeable effect, along with vascularity. I felt like my appearance literally was improved throughout the day just becasue of that.
I noticed pretty solid endurance, but aggression/strength was a little more noticeable. Libido effect was much higher than RPM ever had on me.
One other thing, the first 3-4 days I had to shortly thereafter. This made me believe that reservatrol was in them since that is the exact effect it has/had on me.
I don't think I used it long enough to give a complete review or "gains" per se, but those are my initial thoughts on my short trial.
09-21-2007, 11:40 AM
I tried several of the betas (yellows, purple&whites and blue&whites) but not the final version.
The purple& whites, which were pretty close to the final formulation from what I understand, were the best of the batches I tried.
Out of all the categories of performance enhancement, I feel that the gains in lbm and consistent pumps were the most notable. After every workout using the betas, the level of pumps I got were very similar to those I get on cycle and they stay around for days and one could almost say they never really leave.
Muscle bellies remained a lot fuller, even with maintenance calories or below, to the point where I had definition in places where I traditionally don't see...seperation of the delt heads, quad seperation et cetera.
Vascularity on this product is better than any NO product..hands down. Some NO products give a great pump..but it typically lasts less than an hour. The beta provided 24/7 vascularity. The mildest arm excercise...sanding a doorframe etc..produced a lateral bicept vein popping up in minutes. This also translates into consistently harder erections and a much higher libido.
Overall, I did not experience a tremendous amount of fatloss due to my diet having way too much fat in it, though I still recomped a little. My extremeties leaned out a lot, but my midsection lost only a minor amount...but that is without even trying. IMO, if it's used during a cut, the results could be fantastic.
Endurance was hard to define on this product. Cardio endurance went way up. Lifting endurance..hard to tell because I was extremely motivated to see how pumped I would get and that could easily skew one's impressions.
09-21-2007, 11:51 AM
Good input thus far guys.
I feel kinda bad that bio didn't get the red and whites.....
redhawk, I bet the forskolin is what gave you the issues. Easily remedied by gradual ramping up of dose.
09-21-2007, 11:58 AM
09-21-2007, 12:01 PM
09-21-2007, 12:23 PM
Red n Whites
Didn't like it at all! Didn't work period - no strength gains, aggression, alpha male tendencies, all day rock hard pumps and fullness that made you actually feel like you were ON. Nope, nothing like that...
AHHHHHHHH Just joking! Actually everything I just listed happened. The most noteworthy aspect that I mentioned was the constant fullness I had. I received my beta version which were the 'red n whites' (pretty close to the final version) in my last week of post cycle I believe. I was also already running the AX stack (mfx, hdx2, ret2.0) and was in my last week of that, which I was getting great results from BTW so I'm not trying to take anything away from those great products, BUT, when I threw Drive in, WOW! I wish I knew about it 3 weeks prior. Strength was up, which is good considering I was in post cycle, and aggression went up, ESPECIALLY when stacked with RPM. I seriously had a slight feeling of being ON after taking my pre workout dose. Definitely makes you want to lift some heavy weight.
My endurance was slightly elevated. I felt like I could lift longer. I was also getting better overall body composition while taking it. Better definition in my upper chest and delts and slightly improved fat loss even in a caloric surplus.
My third and final week of testing if I recall correctly I decided to take a week off. I think I might have been getting close to overtraining and just needed a well deserved break from the gym. My last day in the gym was a friday and the beta had me feeling full and pumped for a good four or five days into my week off. No weight training or anything and I was still feeling jacked up like I had just lifted.
It's good stuff. I was seriously dreading running out. It had me counting my pills, splitting up doses to make it last longer, and numbering the days on the calendar I had left. I was honestly mad when I ran out. I can't wait to run it at FULL dose
09-21-2007, 12:30 PM
09-21-2007, 12:47 PM
hmmmm..I was gonna post here, but my name is last on the list...f-that..haha..
J and AN guys, ill get this up today fo sho
09-21-2007, 01:02 PM
I had the purple and whites, which were missing the cordyceps. Comically, I was taking Cordyceps5 from MST at the time, so basically I got the experience of the final
I had libido issues - I'd get hard all the time. It was almost a problem, as it wasn't very controllable not quite as bad as on aspire, but not that far off either.
I noticed good recovery time after workout, good energization in general - I didn't feel stimmed, but I did feel motivated to spend gym time. It gave me really good motivation to be doing cardio as well.
I saw consistent strength gains while I was taking Drive, no leaps and bounds, but consistently adding 5-10lbs per exersize per week.
I can't say anything about size or mass gains, as I was on a cut during it. During that month, I lost about 15lbs or so.
One thing I did notice was that in the last 10 days or so I started to raise carbs, and felt that I was having a better experience. Prior to that I had been on under 100g carbs a day. I've already pre-ordered 1 bottle (I think it was the first bottle ordered here on NP), and plan to try it during a bulking or recomp phase, with more carbs.
09-21-2007, 01:03 PM
So I was lucky enough to get a big baggy full of RED and Whites a while back...seeems like soooo long ago now
** I took Drive with Incarnate/Leviathan mixed in and RPM so just so that nobody complains that this wasnt just drive, im letting everyone know. I didnt keep a full detailed log, i had a thread and updated it occasionally, but not frequent. I did not keep track of weight gain ,just feel..
PUMPS : the pumps I got from Drive were pretty much rediculous. Throughout my entire use of it I had a swollen massive pump every single workout. They would last throughout the day, this was probly the biggest thing I noticed about this product, massive pumps.
Strength. : Mytstrength steadily increased on Drive. Not oput of this world, but very nicely increased over time. Again I was taking a few other solid products at the time, but definetly feel this prodcut will be GREAT for strength.
Endurance: Drive + Incarnate = MAD ENDURANCE. This is not a shameless plug about my products, just saying this because It was what I was taking at the time.
Libido: I got a slight increase in libido, not too noticible considering i have a porn star libido 27/7...ask my girlfriend, i maul the poor girl.
Focus and Aggression : besides good strength and massive pumps, this is where drive Shines!....I felt like an animal everytime I went in the gym, threw weights around, got some looks from girls, then went home and did it all again the next day. I had that on cycle mentality (just wanna slam weight around) the entire time I was in the gym, and when i wasnt in the gym i wanted to go back, really.
I really enjoyed testing this product, and thank Dirk as usual for the opportunity.
a few quotes from my mini log:
09-21-2007, 04:25 PM
I only used it for ten days and honestly it was just not enough time to evaluate whether it was having much of an effect or not, these things take a bit to build up in the system, the formula looks damn solid though.
09-21-2007, 05:26 PM
09-21-2007, 09:50 PM
09-22-2007, 12:07 PM
09-22-2007, 12:51 PM
My Drive Experience
I tried the red and whites. I really loved it. I experienced increased focus and concentration, a over "happy feeling". Also my cardio seemed to be more fun. I had to hold back on doing more cardio than I needed. I did feel generally stronger but I didn't run it long enough to notice any strength gains in the gym. It was more of a cardio enhancing supplement for me. Just didn't seem to run out of "drive" when doing cardio, felt like the energy bunny but not a cracked out feeling. The best thing was the general improvement in mood it gave me. Only one problem though, it gave me green diarhea. I finished them anyway. Thats how much I like this product. I just wish it didn't give me that problem because I don't think I could with it for an entire bottle. So it is bitter-sweet for me. Frustrating......
09-22-2007, 01:22 PM
I hate you for this thread lanbane. until I had to rethink it, I didn't realize how much I missed it (the pain was almost gone). That and I hadn't realized how much harder it was to motivate myself to do cardio. dangit. I wish I could use it for the last half of this PAL transformation, man it would help.
I don't really hate you btw young man
09-22-2007, 01:52 PM
OK, I had a nice fat baggie of red and whites. I in initially started with 2 twice a day, but after about a half a bag I upped it to 6 per day on workout days, along with 4-5 RPM pre-workout only. Yeah, high dose.
I never got any feeling of well being or anything similar from it. What I did get was vascularity and pumps. I'd take my first dose of the day straight out of bed on an empty stomach, jump in the shower, and by the time I was out my non-existant morning veins would be popping. Very interesting. I'm a pretty vascular guy, but they typically lay low in the morning. Drive gives a pump which is fast acting and lasts all day.
Pumps in the gym were intense. I looked pretty massive while on it. Initially I dismissed it as a pump-type product only, but the gains stayed. 3 weeks off it now and I haven't lost the size I put on. I felt as if I was packing on mass every workout.
Strength went up, but keep in ind I was using RPM with it. Now that I'm off Drive but on RPM solo, I CAN say RPM solo is no where near as good as RPM+Drive.
Libido...um, yeah. PAL, look out. I haven't tried Aspire, but I think you have some competition. Nuff said.
Like the other testers, I was rationing and hording my stash of Drive like a junkie hordes his last gram. I can't remember the last time I hated downing the last dose of any product. I hate being without it, and my order was placed with Nutra as soon as I saw they had it up for pre-sale.
All I need are creatine mono, RPM, and Drive, along with beta alanine if I'm feeling feisty. Effective as hell.
Nutra, get my isht out already!!!
09-22-2007, 02:17 PM
09-22-2007, 02:21 PM
09-22-2007, 02:24 PM
all the money, the fame, the hot chicks, the jetset life style, the fish oil, it all doesn't ease the pain of no Drive
09-22-2007, 02:26 PM
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