Supplement Guide: With Food / Without Food - Best Results...

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Greetings All,

I hope this thread is going to turn into quite a resource for those that need it and to hopefully help people optimize their supplement timing to gain better results from their purchases etc.

So without further ado I would love for anyone and everyone to list the supps that should either be taken with food or taken on an empty stomach for best results.

List so far:
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Without Food:

Anagen
AP
BCAA - For boosted anabolic effect
Cissus (all)
E-Bol
Ecdy
Ergo AMP
Focus XT
Leviathan
Muira puama(l-Dopa)
Neurostim + C
Niacin - Without Food for the best GH release
?Phenibut? - you guys decide
Primed Ultra
PSlin
REM-R3G
WTF PUMPD
ZMA


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With Food:

Activate
Activate Extreme
Alpha Drive
Alri Restore
Epistane - With GFJ or some sort of EFA meal
Hyperdrol
Hyperdrol X2
Mass FX
MultiVitamin
Nettle root
Niacin - With Food to minimize flushing (vasodilation)
?RPM? - you guys decide


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With / Without No Difference:

Lean Xtreme
NAC
Reset ad
Retain
Retain 2
X Factor


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This is going to become the FAQ when we have enough info.

Thanks to all who contribute worth to the forums,

Neoborn
 
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good post neo! are we looking for supplements or specific ingredience?

In that case Leviathan goes into the without food category
 
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Epistane - With GFJ or some sort of EFA meal

Sounds like this should be with meal and not without
 
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I like BCAA's 15 minutes prior to meal to promote an anabolic effect.
 
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good post neo! are we looking for supplements or specific ingredience?

In that case Leviathan goes into the without food category
supplements / vitamins / Bodybuilding related consumables.

and LOL @ Xjynx you are so correct :D it was late :D

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Leviathan, BCAA's and moved Epi
 
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This will have to turn in a huge list, especially for all the companies having their own blend... I'll add a few.

Empty stomach:
Ecdy, Muira puama(l-Dopa), Cissus (all),

E-Bol, REM-R3G, ZMA, PSlin, AP, WTF PUMPD, Primed Ultra, Ergo AMP, Focus XT(feels a lot more), neurostim + C, Anagen,


With or without:

Phenibut, Reset ad, NAC, Lean Xtreme, retain, Retain 2, X Factor

With:

Alri Restore, Alpha Drive, Nettle root, Activate, Activate Extreme, Mass FX, Hyperdrol, Hyperdrol X 2

This is from personal exp. So take it for what it's worth. I'll add more later.
 
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Added all - List can be as big as needed no holds barred.

Much Love,

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I've found phenibut to best without personally.. with food didn't do the trick...
 
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This will have to turn in a huge list, especially for all the companies having their own blend... I'll add a few.

Empty stomach:
Ecdy, Muira puama(l-Dopa), Cissus (all),

E-Bol, REM-R3G, ZMA, PSlin, AP, WTF PUMPD, Primed Ultra, Ergo AMP, Focus XT(feels a lot more), neurostim + C, Anagen,


With or without:

Phenibut, Reset ad, NAC, Lean Xtreme, retain, Retain 2, X Factor

With:

Alri Restore, Alpha Drive, Nettle root, Activate, Activate Extreme, Mass FX, Hyperdrol, Hyperdrol X 2

This is from personal exp. So take it for what it's worth. I'll add more later.
So are you saying you've tried both with and without food for all of these things and saw better results one way or the other?
 

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I've found RPM makes me reaaaaal jittery if I don't take it close to food.

Some peanuts + shredded wheat, RPM 15 mins afterwards gets rid of all the jitters.

RPM on a empty stomach will make my hands shake.
 
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So are you saying you've tried both with and without food for all of these things and saw better results one way or the other?
Yes. And much more, I will add later I just woke up.
 
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Yes. And much more, I will add later I just woke up.
Interesting. Just wanted to clarify, since I thought it was odd you say Ecdy on an empty stomach, but I'm just basing that off of company recommendations. Good info!
 
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gotta add your multi-vitimins in there with food neoborn
 
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Interesting. Just wanted to clarify, since I thought it was odd you say Ecdy on an empty stomach, but I'm just basing that off of company recommendations. Good info!
Yeah, well as I stated, based on personal exp... Another example would be EC stack.. Some prefer an empty stomach, some just shake it's untolerable, so it's tough to make a universal guide...

Also, some mixes like e-bol: Some ingredients work better on an empty stomach, some ingredients work better with food. You gotta evaluate the benefits of the empty stomach and vice versa..
 
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Yeah, well as I stated, based on personal exp... Another example would be EC stack.. Some prefer an empty stomach, some just shake it's untolerable, so it's tough to make a universal guide...

Also, some mixes like e-bol: Some ingredients work better on an empty stomach, some ingredients work better with food. You gotta evaluate the benefits of the empty stomach and vice versa..
good posting john. for me EC stack I prefer empty stomach while others seem to take it with food and still feel the same effect. seems to work differently for all types of people.
 
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Yeah, I guess one could use the guide as a GUIDE and this is not set in stone.
 
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i have to STRONGLY disagree on Phenibut. Definetly best to be taken without food.
 
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Updated list.

B vitamins?
C vitamin?

X-Lean?
X-Dream?

Drive?
 
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multi vitimins neoborn. Im not sure about other multi vitimins but most multi vitimins directions are to take vitimins after a meal. so it is to be taken with food.
 
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i think x-lean can be taken with food. but im not 100 % sure either :think:
 
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multi vitimins neoborn. Im not sure about other multi vitimins but most multi vitimins directions are to take vitimins after a meal. so it is to be taken with food.
You no see?

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Much Love,

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You should make a section named unclassified and go from there
 
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Without Food

Drive
RPM
IGF-2
Lipotropin AM/PM
NeoVar

With Food

Osteobolan-C
 
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it should be taken on a stomach EMPTY and then afterwards with slow carbs.
Sweet, I've taking it about 15 min before breakfast and my preworkout meal. Should I wait a little longer before eating?
 

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X-lean

I remember reading in the "How to pulse orals Dr. D saying X-lean should be taken upon waking in da AM especially if you can't eat right away. I use it between meals at work when I am to busy to eat every 2-3 hrs, it seems to work quite well for me

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NO supplements, at least for vasodilatation, take w/o food.
 

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Without food-
Diesel test hardcore
Halo-Tren 400 (the instructions don't say anything about taking with food)
Taurine
dermacrine
dermacrine sustain (do transdermals count?)
 

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Damn, ya know this info should really be in a wiki or some other type of system for easy viewing and updating without having to search through a ton of threads.
 

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Damn, ya know this info should really be in a wiki or some other type of system for easy viewing and updating without having to search through a ton of threads.
I agree, but nonetheless it's here now, and that makes it a little easier.:donut:
 
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Where does M1T and Superdrol fall in there ?
 

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Sesathin with food


DCP without (or eat with junk food for cheating)
 
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With foods (containing some oily base for superior absorption):
Essential Fatty Acids (Omega-3 and Omega-6).
Ascorbyl Palmitate (lipid-soluble form of Vitamin C). Water-soluble Vitamin C can be taken with or without food.
CoQ10 (both the regular ubiquinone and the significantly more advanced ubiquinol)
 
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bump cuz I diggity this thread... it's good info.
 
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bump cuz I diggity this thread... it's good info.
Me too, a chronic pathological micro manager digs this kind of stuff. Would be grateful if anyone else could post anything else they know
 

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