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    So I started Fall training for baseball in college, and during the last stretch of our training today my legs just completely gave out on me and I felt like I was going to throw up, so I went to the bathroom and finished the rest of the time in there. I could not have ran another 10 ft. without collapsing to be honest. My coach was pretty upset and thought I was just trying to get out of doing the stuff. At the time we were doing different agilities (lunges, spider crawl, reverse curls, etc..) I consider myself to be in pretty good shape, but I guess I should have done a little more stuff like that in the off-season.

    So besides just time, is there any supplements/ and or food that I can be taking in to help speed up the process of increasing my endurance (particularly in my legs.) I did drink a cup of coffee before the lift, and that obviously didn't help...

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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    nimbus nutrition's Poseidon is the answer

    http://store.anabolicminds.com/produ.../poseidon.html

    and upping your complex carbs like oats, rice etc

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    You bumpedafter 3 minutes....I choose not to respond till someone else does.
    Also, just cofee is a bad idea. Little to NO nutritional value.
    Not doing alot iont eh off season also played a huge roll, and sounds like you just pushed to hard to fast.
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    hey bro there are few things you can try that i think might help
    1. Citrulline Malate
    Citrulline Malate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    2. Creatine
    Creatine Monohydrate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    I personally prefer DiCreatine Malate
    DiCreatine Malate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    3. Beta Alanine
    Beta-Alanine (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    Those are the basic bulk powders. If you want to get into the better tasting supplements and stuff I recommend White Flood, Green Magnitude and Xtend. You can also throw in some extra bulk Citrulline Malate if you want. There are tons of products out there but those are the basics I recommend. Gives me awesome stamina/energy for cardio. Good Luck!

    -Cellardude

    Edit- Swell by Nibus Nutrition also looks good.
    Swell (530 grams) By Nimbus Nutrition

    It has a combo of Beata alanine and Citrulline Malate as well as the posiedon complex to keep you hydrated while your running. Great add to your arsenal in my opinion. Throw in some creatine and your good to go bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    You bumpedafter 3 minutes....
    i didn't even see that, that's a bit strange
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    My only ideas for now.
    As above, plenty of Complex carbs and H2O
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    Actually i disagree with the mono. He will get to much water retention especially in sports with the amount of water intake. And it's just more "weight" to carry around. Maybe can't afford to be more "bulky"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    Actually i disagree with the mono. He will get to much water retention especially in sports with the amount of water intake. And it's just more "weight" to carry around. Maybe can't afford to be more "bulky"
    true but ive read articles that said that creatine has benefits for sports. heres the clip from the article I found on BN.com

    2.5: What types of athletes can benefit from creatine supplementation?

    The effects of creatine in many types of athletes has been researched, sometimes in sport-specific activities. Some of the various populations and exercises that have improved after creatine supplementation are listed here.

    Weight lifting

    Many studies have examined the effects of creatine on resistance training performance, using one rep maximum as the performance measure. A meta-analysis of sixteen placebo-controlled studies on resistance trained males published in 2002 found creatine supplementation to increase one rep maximum for bench press by an average of 15.07 lbs. and one rep maximum for squat by an average of 21.47 lbs. Another review looked at improvements in 1, 3, and 10 rep maximums following creatine supplementation and found an average of an 8% greater increase compared to placebo. The review also found an improvement of weight lifting performance measured by an increase in the number of repititions at a given percentage of maximal strength of 14% relative to placebo.

    Swimming

    The effect of creatine (.3 g/kg loading followed by 2.25 g maintenance) or placebo on swimming performance on 50 and 100 y sprints was measured in fifteen Division III swimmers. The subjects given creatine had improved performance compared to pre-supplementation on both events. Another study in junior swimmers found no improvement in single sprints from creatine supplementation, but did find an enhancement of swim bench test performance. Multiple other studies have also found creatine to improve swimming performance.

    Soccer

    A recent study examined the effects of three doses of 10 g creatine daily or placebo in twenty male soccer players over the course of seven days. Performance on a number of soccer-related tests was measured. Creatine improved performance on the dribble test, sprint-power test, and vertical jump test. These tasks rely primarily on the ATP-PCr system. Creatine failed to improve endurance performance in these subjects. The authors concluded that creatine improved soccer-specific skills in young soccer players. Four previous studies have also found impoved performance on similar tests from creatine supplementation in highly trained soccer players.

    Cycling

    A number of studies have found creatine to improve cycling performance, especially sprint performance followed by short rest periods. Additionally, creatine may even improve endurance cycling performance.

    Sprinting

    Creatine appears to improve sprint performance, but not to the same degree as most other forms of exercise. While some studies indicate a benefit, others do not. It is possible that the increase in body mass makes a larger difference here.

    Rowing

    A study examined the effect of creatine (20 g daily) or placebo for five days on exercise tests in elite rowers. It found that creatine increased the exercise time for anaerobic exercise against a constant load in this study population. However, another study did not find an improvement from creatine supplementation in a high intensity rowing and strength program.

    Wrestling

    In one study, 20 international level wrestlers were given creatine (four doses of 5 g daily) or placebo and underwent Wingate anaerobic tests. There was significant improvement after supplementation with creatine, but not placebo.

    edit- baseball isnt in here but the same concept applies.
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    let me rephrase my sentence....
    I disagree with mono...but NOT creatine. Thats may be more suitable. We all know mono is notorious for bloat and water weight. I know CEE is expensive but maybe he'd take to that well.
    I said this about 4 times in 2 days. i use Universal Nut. Storm and love it. No extra "water weight" and it is definetly keeping me strong. I ran out of BCAA but i used o mix them together for during my WO. I may try to add some Cit Mal. or something else to help out with a pump. right now i have WTF pumped though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    let me rephrase my sentence....
    I disagree with mono...but NOT creatine. Thats may be more suitable. We all know mono is notorious for bloat and water weight. I know CEE is expensive but maybe he'd take to that well.
    I said this about 4 times in 2 days. i use Universal Nut. Storm and love it. No extra "water weight" and it is definetly keeping me strong. I ran out of BCAA but i used o mix them together for during my WO. I may try to add some Cit Mal. or something else to help out with a pump. right now i have WTF pumped though.
    haha. sorry mental. I agree mono causes a lot of bloat/ water retention. There has been a lot of debate going on about CEE and its effectiveness as well. What about Dicreatine Malate? I wasnt able to check for water retention myself because I switched instantly from Mono to Dicreatine malate. anyone care to shed some light ?
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    I wanted to look into DiCreatine MAlate never had time. I know CEE is always under debate. It's is very very mixed on who is responding. The ones that do LOVE it, others use it as a test booster. Casue they get so angry it din't work! haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    I wanted to look into DiCreatine MAlate never had time. I know CEE is always under debate. It's is very very mixed on who is responding. The ones that do LOVE it, others use it as a test booster. Casue they get so angry it din't work! haha
    haha. you should try DiCreatine Malate when you get a chance. Ive switched up from Mono to Dicreatine, better strength on Dicreatine and less bloats. get some bulk powder to test it out and then try green magnitude when you get the chance. awesome product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    haha. you should try DiCreatine Malate when you get a chance. Ive switched up from Mono to Dicreatine, better strength on Dicreatine and less bloats. get some bulk powder to test it out and then try green magnitude when you get the chance. awesome product.
    I rememebr gettin a smaple of GM and i couldn't take the taste. Ill just grab some DiC Malate and mix it in some gatorade or tea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MentalTwitch again.
    haha thanks man, appreciate it.
    i got the same thing on you this afternoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    I rememebr gettin a smaple of GM and i couldn't take the taste. Ill just grab some DiC Malate and mix it in some gatorade or tea.
    haha. which flavor? I actually love GM taste. I consider it my cheat drink of the day. 1 1/2 cups of freezing ice cold water with an ice cube or two with sour apple GM. hits the spot. no lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    haha. which flavor? I actually love GM taste. I consider it my cheat drink of the day. 1 1/2 cups of freezing ice cold water with an ice cube or two with sour apple GM. hits the spot. no lie.
    Not sure...? i din't know there were different flavors...green apple rings a bell. Maybe ill try it out again.
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    I heard dicreatine malate is pretty tasteless. mix it in with some flavoring of some sort. I think im going to try to make my own supplement in a few months . make it with all this stuff that i recommended above and some others.
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    I heard that electric lemonade was extremely tasty too. gotta mix with plenty of water tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    I heard that electric lemonade was extremely tasty too. gotta mix with plenty of water tho.
    AH HA! Thats what it was. Green Apple is what i saw on the add, and was like"wow i hope that one doesnt taste lik a$$" Lemonade was it casue i rememebr the color. It was when i got the PW, GM, and WF samples. PW i could barley get down too though.(i know that is EAAs) Well i do like sour and green apple flavoring usually, as long as it is not like NO Shotgun type green apple cinnomin a$$ style...aka vomit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    AH HA! Thats what it was. Green Apple is what i saw on the add, and was like"wow i hope that one doesnt taste lik a$$" Lemonade was it casue i rememebr the color. It was when i got the PW, GM, and WF samples. PW i could barley get down too though.(i know that is EAAs) Well i do like sour and green apple flavoring usually, as long as it is not like NO Shotgun type green apple cinnomin a$$ style...aka vomit!
    haha. ive tried purple wraath. its not that bad. it has a distinct taste to it. sorta like a grape punch version of ovaltine. not terrible but still its EAA.
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    sorry for the pre-mature bump but there were a lot of threads coming up in the order, and I didnt want this one to get overlooked...but anyway thanks a lot for all the info. I did have a protein shake as well before lift, but I did not take in any complex carbs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    sorry for the pre-mature bump but there were a lot of threads coming up in the order, and I didnt want this one to get overlooked...but anyway thanks a lot for all the info. I did have a protein shake as well before lift, but I did not take in any complex carbs...
    One of my favortie food preWO maybe an hour..Whole wheat bagel half with PB and the other with honey. So good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    hey bro there are few things you can try that i think might help
    1. Citrulline Malate
    Citrulline Malate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    2. Creatine
    Creatine Monohydrate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    I personally prefer DiCreatine Malate
    DiCreatine Malate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    3. Beta Alanine
    Beta-Alanine (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    Those are the basic bulk powders. If you want to get into the better tasting supplements and stuff I recommend White Flood, Green Magnitude and Xtend. You can also throw in some extra bulk Citrulline Malate if you want. There are tons of products out there but those are the basics I recommend. Gives me awesome stamina/energy for cardio. Good Luck!

    -Cellardude

    Edit- Swell by Nibus Nutrition also looks good.
    Swell (530 grams) By Nimbus Nutrition

    It has a combo of Beata alanine and Citrulline Malate as well as the posiedon complex to keep you hydrated while your running. Great add to your arsenal in my opinion. Throw in some creatine and your good to go bro!
    Add in some Cordygen5, too. I would put it up there with citrulline for endurance.

    And yes, eat more carbs, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    hey bro there are few things you can try that i think might help
    1. Citrulline Malate
    Citrulline Malate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    2. Creatine
    Creatine Monohydrate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    I personally prefer DiCreatine Malate
    DiCreatine Malate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    3. Beta Alanine
    Beta-Alanine (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
    Those are the basic bulk powders. If you want to get into the better tasting supplements and stuff I recommend White Flood, Green Magnitude and Xtend. You can also throw in some extra bulk Citrulline Malate if you want. There are tons of products out there but those are the basics I recommend. Gives me awesome stamina/energy for cardio. Good Luck!

    -Cellardude

    Edit- Swell by Nibus Nutrition also looks good.
    Swell (530 grams) By Nimbus Nutrition

    It has a combo of Beata alanine and Citrulline Malate as well as the posiedon complex to keep you hydrated while your running. Great add to your arsenal in my opinion. Throw in some creatine and your good to go bro!
    Agreed, Poseidon and/or SWELL would be a perfect fit for your training regimen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
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    My only ideas for now.
    As above, plenty of Complex carbs and H2O

    RPM is a good product, but recommending a stim for this kind of an activity isnt a good idea.


    AEN's beta alanine, MST's Codyigen product, some complex carbs about 45 mins before , poseiden + gatorade water mix to sip on during activity, learn to breath better.

    Dont eat to heavy before the activity in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by workin2005 View Post
    Agreed, Poseidon and/or SWELL would be a perfect fit for your training regimen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    I just can't wait to get my Swell!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    RPM is a good product, but recommending a stim for this kind of an activity isnt a good idea.


    AEN's beta alanine, MST's Codyigen product, some complex carbs about 45 mins before , poseiden + gatorade water mix to sip on during activity, learn to breath better.

    Dont eat to heavy before the activity in question.
    Why is a stim not a good idea? I am guessin he is using it for his practices and training day and not game days. Alot of people use RPM on cardio days. He'll get endurance, strength and overall effects.
    So why not for "this kind" of activity...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    Why is a stim not a good idea? I am guessin he is using it for his practices and training day and not game days. Alot of people use RPM on cardio days. He'll get endurance, strength and overall effects.
    So why not for "this kind" of activity...?

    well, stims have the potential to increase blood pressure, breathing, and heart rate also can increase pontential for heat exhaustion, along with the idea that some stims have diuretic effects. Yes people take them during cardio and for cutting, I just wouldnt recommend taking stims during cardio work for sports during the summer outside.
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    good posting. ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    good posting. ^
    agreed. Good idea behind it. I still think that maybe RPM at half dose would be ok. Often times he will have enough water. He said he tried coffee, i do get a diuretic effect from coffee and green tea. I guess also better to be safe and just take the initial first route Cell put up, minus the mono...
    Reps comin your way...
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    haha. i would rep you too rugger but i showed WAY too much loving in the past 24 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    haha. i would rep you too rugger but i showed WAY too much loving in the past 24 hours

    One of the negative sides of being a whore....been there. I still keep tryin to give reps so i can getthem toyou Cell...it may be awhile.
    Time for work.
    later fellas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    One of the negative sides of being a whore....been there. I still keep tryin to give reps so i can getthem toyou Cell...it may be awhile.
    Time for work.
    later fellas.
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    thanks alot guys for all the great info, i couldn't have asked for a better response...

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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    thanks alot guys for all the great info, i couldn't have asked for a better response...

    Cheers
    no problem. best of luck!
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    Im thinking about going with some Poseidon, and I also have some Kre-Alkalyn on hand, what do you guys think about that combo?

    Is it enough, too much? Should I add anything else?

    I must also mention that i AM in college and I have very very limited funds.
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