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    New to supps, whats the basic ?


    Hi everyone, I'm pretty new to the supps, (always trained without protein,creatine or anything else)
    I had some masses going on but I dont feel like im getting anymore mass, I'm losing weight too (strict diet)

    Here is what I know about protein and supps so far.

    Best protein must be whey ?
    Mass protein powder make you fat so you can develop mass, than train aerobicly so your muscles shows when the fat get off.
    I know there is some other protein powder, like 100% whey isolate that will not make you fat but will feed your muscle, helping the repairs.

    I know that a good base is multi-vitamin (progressive ) and a protein. I dont plan on taking creatine.

    SO I'd like to know which protein would be good for me, since i've lost a lot of weight (around 50 pounds) and dont wanna go fat again, but stilll want my muscle to be nourished good ?

    thanks in advance for all the info this will gather , good training to all.

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    Hey man you seem like a nice guy willing to learn. Theres a search tab up in the right corner. It has all the info under the sun for ya. Theres a thread I started on which is your favorite protein powder which will help you out alot. The basics for most guys are

    Whey
    Creatine (mono usually)
    BCAA (branch Chain Amino Acids)
    Fish Oil
    Multi-Vitamin

    Search some of those things are you should be good to go.

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    I can smell the flames coming on this one.

    Anyway, you have a ton of mis-information going on here. If your diet is strict and you are on a structured training regime, you should not be getting "fat." How in the h*ll have you lost 50 pounds?

    Get at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight to start with. Most of that should come from whole food and you can get whey protein for pre and post-workout shakes. Multi-vitamin is pretty much essential and I would suggest fish oil supplements too, unless you already have a high-fish diet. Most people don't.

    I swear by creatine monohydrate, but you said you're not interested. So, that about covers the basics. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Hey man you seem like a nice guy willing to learn. Theres a search tab up in the right corner. It has all the info under the sun for ya. Theres a thread I started on which is your favorite protein powder which will help you out alot. The basics for most guys are

    Whey
    Creatine (mono usually)
    BCAA (branch Chain Amino Acids)
    Fish Oil
    Multi-Vitamin

    Search some of those things are you should be good to go.

    Welcom to AM best info around IMO.
    Oooh, yeah, I forgot BCAA. Good catch DW!
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    Its ok I gotcha covered goldenguns. Check out the 2nd link in my signature. You'll find everything you need there.
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    Welcome to the boards! I hope you get all the information you can digest and come up with something useful.

    For now, I'd recommend asking your Dr. for test and GH shots weekly, taken with a double dose of "The Strap". OF COURSE, I'M JUST KIDDING!!!

    As for whey, many prefer Optimum's 100% Whey Gold Standard. It comes in many flavors, has good mixability, and is decently priced. To gain, shoot for 1.5-2 grams of pro for each pound of bodyweight. That's to supplement lean mass, not to get fat.

    For others, I'll mimick what the others said and say the same, but add my favorites:

    BCAA's - Controlled Labs PurplE WrAAth (zip on calories)
    Fish Oils - no favorites, just look for a good brand
    Multis - Universal Animal Pack seems to be a staple

    Though you say you aren't interested in any creatine, we can all vouch that it is a staple and that you should give it a go. Whether it is the most basic monohydrate variety, creatine ethyl ester (cee), or any other variety, creatines do help with endurance and building muscle. It is a natural substance found in red meat. The reason for supplementing is that we don't get enough from the meat we eat (unless you're pounding steak all day). Creatine will help to flush toxins out of your muscles, prolonging that "burn" feeling you get when lifting for reps. It is safe for most all to use - very very few are allergic to it or have bad reactions at all. It's inexpensive (for the most part), and will help your workouts along better.

    I hope that this helped a little. Best of luck in your endeavors! Stay strong!!
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    Unfortunatley finding the right supplementation for you can take as long as it took to get diet and training down, You will hear this is good and that is good, and you will probably buy them and wonder what someone was talking about when they said this is awsome, NONE of them taste great Ive tried most, the only things that taste good have high amounts of sugar, here are some guidelines as your questions were not really answered

    1.All whey's should be between 80-130 cals per serving(depending on serving size) If they arent you are not just buying protein

    2.Choclate is usually the safest bet if you are mixing just with water or skim milk

    3.If you are mixing things such as fruit vanilla or unflavored have less taste and will allow you to flovor torwards your liking. Theire are fruit flavored ones as well, they are good but do not really taste like fruit juice as often claimed.
    4.Unless you are an elite level bodybuilder/athlete whey is whey.
    Ones that say concentrate instead of isolate are often far cheaper and i assure you their will be no "noticible" difference as far as fat loss.don' expect extreme results from a 90$ 2 pouund canister a 25$ 5 pounder is very similar.

    5.There are two ways that whey may be used. The first is multiple times throughout the day, replacing the meat in that meal. This is not better or worse then eating the meat, simply a matter of preference or convenience. some people use 4-5 servings a day this way as it is cheaper then most meat


    the second is either before or after a workout, when used before
    use just the protein, when used after, mix a quarter or a half scoop(don't buy the hype, you only need a little) with Gatorade or another 50 cal per serving sport drink. You can also buy something sugar like called maltodextrin to mix(find it online or at your local supplement store). The Gatorade is just as good, again don't buy into the hype. You don't need a lot of either one
    half scoop of whey and two servings of Gatorade(100 cal) is more then enough to replenish muscle and not be calorie laden

    6. There are often sample packets of whey at any decent supplement store, try a few out

    7.If you are just begginging, a good first buy is any house brand, vitamin shoppe or gnc 100% whey, they are cheap and just as palatable as anything else
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenguns View Post
    Hi everyone, I'm pretty new to the supps, (always trained without protein,creatine or anything else)
    I had some masses going on but I dont feel like im getting anymore mass, I'm losing weight too (strict diet)

    Here is what I know about protein and supps so far.

    Best protein must be whey ?
    Mass protein powder make you fat so you can develop mass, than train aerobicly so your muscles shows when the fat get off.
    I know there is some other protein powder, like 100% whey isolate that will not make you fat but will feed your muscle, helping the repairs.

    I know that a good base is multi-vitamin (progressive ) and a protein. I dont plan on taking creatine.

    SO I'd like to know which protein would be good for me, since i've lost a lot of weight (around 50 pounds) and dont wanna go fat again, but stilll want my muscle to be nourished good ?

    thanks in advance for all the info this will gather , good training to all.

    Okay let's address some of these points you have going here.

    QBest protein must be whey ?
    A The best protien is NOT whey. It depends what specific purpose you are using the protien for Eg. Whey is good for PWO ( Post Work Out Shakes ) and can be taken normally through the day. It is absorbed into your system the quickest and is very useful to deliver nutrition when you need it. Other protiens you might want to consider are caesin protien. They take longer to get into your system. Caesin is good for a Pre night meal. Cottage cheese is has a good source of caesin.

    Mass protein powder make you fat so you can develop mass, than train aerobicly so your muscles shows when the fat get off


    Mass protien powder does not make you fat. They are in fact pretty low on calories. 1gram of protien = 4 calories. A 40 gram protien shake only contains about 160 calories IF it is purely protien. Remember this rule of thumb. 1-1.5 G of protien per LBM. So if your 150 pounds try to take in 150-225 G of protien (correct me if im wrong) Also accepting huge fat gains is not bulking. You want to put on muscles while accepting as little fat as possible. Remember to eat clean ( whole foods such as oat, (old fashioned) chicken, veggies , beef, natty peanut butter and pork) Do NOT overdo the protien powder. It's much more beneficial to eat clean protien sources as those mentioned above.

    I know there is some other protein powder, like 100% whey isolate that will not make you fat but will feed your muscle, helping the repairs

    agian I repeat 1g of protien has 4 calories. protien itself is hard to make you fat. Let's say you need 200G of protien per day. If all you drank were "PURE" and i mean "PURE" protien sources then that is roughly 800 calories from protien. Weight gainers have a lot of added sugar and fats that make them heavy on calories.

    I know that a good base is multi-vitamin (progressive ) and a protein. I dont plan on taking creatine.

    correct. multi-vitamins are a good base as well as protien. they should be staples in your diet. as for creatine you dont need it as you are just learning. later on you might discover that it is very beneficial and media and such make it sound as if your doing drugs or something.

    SO I'd like to know which protein would be good for me, since i've lost a lot of weight (around 50 pounds) and dont wanna go fat again, but stilll want my muscle to be nourished good ?

    Start With Optimum Nutrition Whey. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/9...-standard.html
    It's a good place to start and remember protien shakes are a good source of protien but consume whole clean foods as they will benefit you greatly with your plans of packing on lean mass.

    If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM. Im no expert so yeah. Ill try to help you out to the best of my efforts however. Welcome to Anabolic Mind's you'll love this place
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    my opinion on supplementation for getting and staying lean is to cut back reliance on protein powders but increase quality multi vit and fish oil.

    on a calorie deficit needed to cut fat your body will need the vitamin and fish oil to stay healthy.

    when i want to cut fat i only drink one protein shake immediately post workout. the rest of the day i look to consume solid foods of mostly quality protein/fat.
    when looking to add mass i'll drink several shakes throughout the day.

    granted whey supplementation is not high calorie but it is digested quickly which can be a negative for weight loss goals. The quick digestion of whey makes it so you will not be satisfied for very long and looking to eat again shortly. Further, if you consume more whey than your muscles can absorb the excess can easily be stored as fat. that is why whey is recommended post workout when protein synthesis is highest. The quick digestion of whey can hinder weight loss results if used in excess or at the wrong time.

    continue to work out like a mad man to keep the muscle you have. more muscle = faster metabolism and gets your body to favor burning fat over muscle.

    if burning fat is your primary goal maybe consider cutting all protein supplements and focus on a quality diet and instead supplement with a multi, fish oil and possibly look into things like green tea or caffeine.
  

  
 

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