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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    And what is wrong with ecdy???

    Sinner and I are the 2 resident ecdy whores, FYI.
    Whore away buddy, whore away. You can have all the insect sh1t you want, and pretty soon you will ripped as an ant...


  2. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Whore away buddy, whore away. You can have all the insect sh1t you want, and pretty soon you will ripped as an ant...
    Are we speaking in ratios or absolutes? Because I would love to be as ripped as an ant per unit of body mass.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Whore away buddy, whore away. You can have all the insect sh1t you want, and pretty soon you will ripped as an ant...
    I take it you have never run a high % extract of ecdy...
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    And what is wrong with ecdy???

    Sinner and I are the 2 resident ecdy whores, FYI.
    A little info I pulled from Cy Wilson

    ...humans do not posses ecdysteroid receptors and thus there is no place for these compounds to bind and induce transcription. Insects on the other hand do.

    Researchers have concluded the same thing for years. One author said that ecdysteroids are completely innocuous, having no anabolic activity in mammals. Another group of researchers gave mice 2 grams of ecdysteroids per kilogram of body weight for a total of 35 days. They had no effect.(16,17)

    In a side note, ecdysteroids may increase insulin sensitivity in adipose tissue.(18) That means that they could actually increase body fat. Not good.

    Lastly, just for fun, I’ll give you the pharmacokinetics of ecdysteroids. Once ingested, ecdysteroids survive the stomach, are taken up rapidly, and then removed quickly from the bloodstream and subsequently disposed of through biliary excretion into the intestine. Ecdysteroid levels peak 30 min to 2 hours after oral ingestion.(19,20) That means that even if they did work, they wouldn’t hang around for very long.


  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I take it you have never run a high % extract of ecdy...
    ...humans do not posses ecdysteroid receptors and thus there is no place for these compounds to bind and induce transcription. Insects on the other hand do.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I take it you have never run a high % extract of ecdy...
    But hey if it works for you, keep on doing it. I just hope AN doesn't follow the trend.

  7. I never said it was a mass-builder. It is an ergogenic aid for recovery, endurance, vascularity, and hardness. Many, including myself, also experience a leaning effect from it. I am well aware of the T 1/2 of ecdy, but most are not.

    Ecdy needs to be taken with a high protein meal and I do not see any mention of diet in the study you posted.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I never said it was a mass-builder. It is an ergogenic aid for recovery, endurance, vascularity, and hardness. Many, including myself, also experience a leaning effect from it. I am well aware of the T 1/2 of ecdy, but most are not.

    Ecdy needs to be taken with a high protein meal and I do not see any mention of diet in the study you posted.
    In a side note, ecdysteroids may increase insulin sensitivity in adipose tissue.(18)

    18. Kosovskii MI, et al. "The effect of nerobol and ecdysterone on insulin-dependent processes linked normally and in insulin resistance." Probl Endokrinol (Mosk) 1989 Sep-Oct;35(5):77-81

  9. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    In a side note, ecdysteroids may increase insulin sensitivity in adipose tissue.(18)

    18. Kosovskii MI, et al. "The effect of nerobol and ecdysterone on insulin-dependent processes linked normally and in insulin resistance." Probl Endokrinol (Mosk) 1989 Sep-Oct;35(5):77-81
    Never put too much stock in a single study, especially over real-world experience. Clen is anabolic in mice, but not in humans, so not everything effects humans and mice the same way.
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  10. Anyways, we have ruled out ecdy
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Anyways, we have ruled out ecdy

  12. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I have asked a million times. I think it will change a few more times before the release. Or maybe it is a mystery ingredient.
    Nah - it is set in stone- we have had the formula for about 3-4 months- just wanted to make sure the ratios were right
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  13. and guess what people?

    they are RIGHT!!
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  14. Of course they are, Dirk digglered it just riiiight.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Of course they are, Dirk digglered it just riiiight.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Nah - it is set in stone- we have had the formula for about 3-4 months- just wanted to make sure the ratios were right
    And we still don't know what the 5 items are. I give up, just like I gave up ever seeing Drive in my filthy paws. It is a few weeks every week, now it is Oct at teh O...

    At least the NFL season started

  17. The O is this month, isn't it?

    We'll have Drive out for you XJ..... a consolation prize of sorts for the season Denver is about to have
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    The O is this month, isn't it?

    We'll have Drive out for you XJ..... a consolation prize of sorts for the season Denver is about to have
    Well, if he is an Avs fan, then at least one team will have a hell of a season.

    Red Wings Suck.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    The O is this month, isn't it?

    We'll have Drive out for you XJ..... a consolation prize of sorts for the season Denver is about to have
    are you guys going to be @ the expo ?

  20. Yes'sir... booth right next to Palo Alto!

    Like a one stop shop baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (**** Vitale voice)
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Yes'sir... booth right next to Palo Alto!

    Like a one stop shop baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (**** Vitale voice)
    are you guys going to have drive there??

  22. Hmmmm.... I'd say there's a darn good chance, but I'll have to double check on what the booth plans are. (Samples?, selling full sizers?, models in body paint only?, Dirk dancing to techno?etc.?)
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  23. how about dirk in body paint only covered in skittles ( drive capsules ) !!

  24. sounds intresting

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Hmmmm.... I'd say there's a darn good chance, but I'll have to double check on what the booth plans are. (Samples?, selling full sizers?, models in body paint only?, Dirk dancing to techno?etc.?)
    I am going to have to make it to the Mr O one of these days, especially if there is a UFC event that weekend.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  26. Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    are you guys going to have drive there??
    We are going to try like hell
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    how about dirk in body paint only covered in skittles ( drive capsules ) !!
    Ok, who let the cat outta the bag? We'll have to scrap that idea..... mysteriously, all the compeitors will be painted up and dancing...... we need to come up with something new! bBck to the drawing board....................

    Seriously.... tell us. The secret AN SuppCave has been breached........... I am going to review security video as we speak.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Ok, who let the cat outta the bag? We'll have to scrap that idea..... mysteriously, all the compeitors will be painted up and dancing...... we need to come up with something new! bBck to the drawing board....................

    Seriously.... tell us. The secret AN SuppCave has been breached........... I am going to review security video as we speak.
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals

  29. Writeup or FAQ's.... which you want guys?
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Writeup or FAQ's.... which you want guys?
    FAQ's are nice. I like em because there easier to read than the write up in my opinions. bring on the FAQ

    then agian... write ups good too. BRING ON BOTH

  31. Both you say? Hmmmmmmmm.........
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  32. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Both you say? Hmmmmmmmm.........
    quit the teasing already and bring on the main course

  33. dang i dont care which one u all get up firstim sure both will be great reads

  34. You can release FAQ when the product is out

  35. Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    quit the teasing already and bring on the main course
    LanBane is a lil tease...

  36. I'm a BIG tease!

  37. yes you are sugar lips
  38. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    You can release *** when the product is out
    They have zombie captive?
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  39. Lol
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  40. He's only captive for the time being. US Military is working on extracting his DNA to create a new WMD, code named Z-***14763. Should be complete very soon, there wasn't much else to his DNA!
  

  
 

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