WTF is Testofen?

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  1. WTF is Testofen?


    I skimmed past a few writeups on Testofen, and they look VERY impressive.....almost too good to be true. Well, I tried to run a few searches on Testofen and even just Fenusides (testofen seems to be a fenuside matrix). Google scholar and pubmed just laugh at me . There's no citations in the scivation writeup for Fenutest regarding testofen. Just wondering if anyone else has seen something I've missed.

    There seems to be a small following for testofen, and I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth dropping some change to check it out.

    Thanks
    thesinner


  2. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I skimmed past a few writeups on Testofen, and they look VERY impressive.....almost too good to be true. Well, I tried to run a few searches on Testofen and even just Fenusides (testofen seems to be a fenuside matrix). Google scholar and pubmed just laugh at me . There's no citations in the scivation writeup for Fenutest regarding testofen. Just wondering if anyone else has seen something I've missed.

    There seems to be a small following for testofen, and I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth dropping some change to check it out.

    Thanks
    thesinner
    Gencor's site doesnt seem to reference any studies. Looks like an interesting herbal test booster. Is this new? I'm assuming its not but I dunno...
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  3. I believe they have ISA-TEST w/ Testofen Now.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Gencor's site doesnt seem to reference any studies. Looks like an interesting herbal test booster. Is this new? I'm assuming its not but I dunno...
    They recently released data on a clinical trial with Testofen(done at the expense of Gencor themselves). I don't beleive it's actually been published(if it where it would have shown up on pubmed), and the fact that all you see about the positive effects(and marketing) of the fenusides comes from this trial makes me a little iffy.

    It has, however, been known for a long time that fenugreek has some potent actions to it in regards to hormone upregulation, which is why I'm STILL curious about this specific extract.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  5. I took this from vitacost.com, they still had no actually study to reference. I'm not sure if there is a typo in it or what b/c they say they gave men 600mg's then at the end it says 300mg's:


    As men age, our testosterone levels drop, and with this comes loss of muscle mass and other functions. This product contains powerful nutrients, including a standardized form of fenugreek called Testofen™. There was a human clinical trial performed on Testofen™, although to my knowledge, it has not yet been published.

    Briefly, the study involved 60 individuals given either 600 mg a day of Testofen™ or placebo. Men between the ages of 18 and 35 years who worked out on a regular basis were involved in this eight-week study. It was found at the end of the study, that individuals who received the Testofen™ 300 mg twice a day had over a 98% increase in free testosterone levels compared to the placebo group.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    They recently released data on a clinical trial with Testofen(done at the expense of Gencor themselves). I don't beleive it's actually been published(if it where it would have shown up on pubmed), and the fact that all you see about the positive effects(and marketing) of the fenusides comes from this trial makes me a little iffy.

    It has, however, been known for a long time that fenugreek has some potent actions to it in regards to hormone upregulation, which is why I'm STILL curious about this specific extract.
    Me too, me too

    It sounds a little too good to be true, but I'm all ears if any further info can come my way.

  7. Fenotest is an awesome test-booster. It has very similar effects to nettle on strength and body comp.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Fenotest is an awesome test-booster. It has very similar effects to nettle on strength and body comp.
    That's the message I got the study rpen22 posted. I'm still curious as to how it works. From the things I've read, it seems to function more similarly to Icariin.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    That's the message I got the study rpen22 posted. I'm still curious as to how it works. From the things I've read, it seems to function more similarly to Icariin.
    From what I've read their theory seems to stem from it's possible abilities to increase ACTH, leading to a supposed increase in androgen release for test conversion and it's structural capabilities to possibly activate ARs. Again, this is all theories that the supplier of the compound is, well, supplying. Anecdotal feedback on the product has been relatively positive which tells us it's doing something, but enough of the theories... can we get some facts!!

    P.S. Any one wonder why they do not site their animal study references.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  10. I've always thought Testofen was a fancied up name for Fenugreek extract................. am I wrong?

  11. Nope, that's pretty much it in a nut shell. Fenugreek standarized for active fenuside saponins. Hence the name TestoFEN.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  12. Ok, I see what you guys are getting at. Nothing to see here... carry on with your business...

  13. Scivation said it may possibly add it in a future product. For now bulk from NP would be good.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by b_delgros View Post
    For now bulk from NP would be good.
    I concure.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Ok, I see what you guys are getting at. Nothing to see here... carry on with your business...
    keep in mind, however, that the infamous fenugreek most people take during post cycle therapy is approximately <1% of these saponins. Dosing 1000-2000mg per day of fenugreek seed is going to be a lot less than what's being dosed with Testofen, even in the studies. It's bad practice to throw out an idea until you can prove it wrong.......just let it sit on the backburner until more info comes out.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    It's bad practice to throw out an idea until you can prove it wrong.......just let it sit on the backburner until more info comes out.
    ???

  17. Just to clarify: I wasn't saying anything negative about it, or throwing out the idea...........

  18. Biotest threw their Carbolin-19 in their T-Booster and in their Fat Burner.

    Both of them good stuff.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Biotest threw their Carbolin-19 in their T-Booster and in their Fat Burner.

    Both of them good stuff.
    Carbolin-19 is a forskolin extract. And after reading some of 'their sponsored research', it seems a little skeptical to me. I'm not saying it doesn't work (I'm quite a forskolin fan, in fact), just that I think they're hyping up a bit too much.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Carbolin-19 is a forskolin extract. And after reading some of 'their sponsored research', it seems a little skeptical to me. I'm not saying it doesn't work (I'm quite a forskolin fan, in fact), just that I think they're hyping up a bit too much.
    Uh, yeah that is why I mentioned it

    Anywho, the fat burner is off the hook, and the T-Booster is solid, but not the best out there.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    this thread is about a fenugreek extract. I'm sorry, but at least one of us is confused right now.
    Yes. I am

    My mind is in the other thread...Ok, I have taken Fenugreek for cutting, suggested by Charles Poliquin. Other than making my piss smell like maple syrup, I can't say it did much???
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