what ever happened to all the Anabolic Pump fanatics???
- 08-27-2007, 03:34 AM
- 08-27-2007, 07:22 AM
1. Went to real insulin instead
2. Went to whatever is the next 'hype'. It happens all the time.
- 08-27-2007, 07:55 AM
08-27-2007, 08:00 AM
Coming from a rep, I know it doesn't mean as much, but I was singing it's praises well beforehand...
...It's still a top selling product, but like all most supplements, after the intial burst of interest, it dies out a little on the boards and people are looking for the next big thing.
It's turned into a product that doesn't need the hype, because of the results everyone has already seen...
...plus I do still see threads about it popping up every few days.
08-27-2007, 08:02 AM
grexx swears by the stuff.
08-27-2007, 08:08 AM
So, because there isn't a thread about AP on every page, it is failure? I guess you haven't noticed how it is a staple supplement for many people because it is one of the few supplements that helps you from a health perspective and a physique perspective. It is a little pricey for me, but the 2 bottles that I used gave me some solid results.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-27-2007, 08:11 AM
A lot of companies will tout sales as a backing for products.
I feel this is a 'loaded' statement, much like Muscle-Tech's fancy graphs and ads.
Does companies truely believe that their product is the best because it sells well ? Doesn't Muscle-Tech sell a lot too ? Does that mean my dormant fibers will be stimulated, and that my 'genes' will be activated ? This is a rhetorical question btw.
There are many factors that play into sales:
-fancy containers (yes, people buy stuff because of the container)
-Jay Cutler and the other IFBB pros
-It may actually work
Ok, so 'it may actually work' is only one of many options on that list so it easily can be accredited to 'it works' along with several other factors listed above.
Bottom line is tha dollaz. Everyone's gotta make a living and there is no such thing in life as having too much money. Someone is getting paid, regardless if these supps work or not.
If you want to 'carb load' just use insulin, it works. If you want to have an 'anabolic cheat code' use IGF-1 LR3,HGH, insulin,plasma expander, and your choice of steroid.
08-27-2007, 08:26 AM
2. properly dose
3. give enough time
4. expect to overcome crappy diet/training
There is too much emphasis on supplements and when the word "Anabolic" is in the title, people expect to blow up in a month.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-27-2007, 08:27 AM
True a lot of big companies do that...and it works for them
The good thing about a forum like this and the companies that associate themselves with it, are that they get direct consumer feedback and can address question/concerns.
...which, IMO, leads to more authentic/innovative products
08-27-2007, 08:28 AM
rodja, I agree, I think the biggest problem with AP is the diet and timing issue.
08-27-2007, 08:31 AM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-27-2007, 08:31 AM
I get the runs really bad on it...can't use it.
It does work though.
08-27-2007, 08:41 AM
All this talk of your typical 'run of the mill' bunk seems like a great time to plug my underappreciated thread:
Create Your Own Bogus Supplement Adertising Campaign
08-27-2007, 10:00 AM
How about taking another companies word for it and probably one of the best "lab" subjects on the planet.
WOW--225lbs x 45 Reps--Is he a beast or just crazy?
08-27-2007, 10:03 AM
I cannot see the video since I am currently at work, however I checked out the post.
I'll give USPLabs props: SuperCissus RX helped greatly with my tendonitis.
08-27-2007, 10:15 AM
08-27-2007, 11:09 AM
08-27-2007, 11:12 AM
08-27-2007, 11:15 AM
Nothing impressive? Would you like to back that one up?
08-27-2007, 11:17 AM
hm, smith machine. ic.
08-27-2007, 11:19 AM
reaper, goto that thread...the guy did 210 reps in 7 sets...
...thats just impressive.
08-27-2007, 11:21 AM
08-27-2007, 11:23 AM
ill check it out when i get back home. i wish i could watch vids at work.
08-27-2007, 11:26 AM
08-27-2007, 11:27 AM
08-27-2007, 11:41 AM
08-27-2007, 11:43 AM
Everything gets hyped when its new. Doesnt mean its no good since the noise has died down. I used it when it first came out and saw good results. Ive been off it for the summer since my diet and training took a whole new twist the past four months but i have a bunch in the closet that will see use very soon.
08-27-2007, 11:47 AM
08-27-2007, 11:48 AM
I'm not that one who did it, go ask him...he is on the board.
08-27-2007, 12:25 PM
I have been using AP off and on for a LONG while now, and it will remain a staple for me.
08-27-2007, 01:34 PM
08-27-2007, 01:44 PM
08-27-2007, 01:58 PM
sinner, with that logic, you don't like powerlifters huh?
08-27-2007, 02:01 PM
08-27-2007, 02:11 PM
08-27-2007, 02:31 PM
I'm sure he does 45 reps to shock the muscle and induce trauma for growth. I'm sure his intentions are not to "be cool" but to improve his physique. He is a natural body builder (a well respected one at that) that competes. He is taking the 20 rep squat just a bit further.
If your goal was to gain fat than eating a bowl of tripe would be a step in the right direction. To claim that a 45 rep squat has no advantage in a training program is naive unless you provide proof otherwise.
08-27-2007, 02:36 PM
08-27-2007, 02:46 PM
The Guiness Book of World Records is filled with useless challeges that at the very least are interesting. Though I would never do things like jam 2000 cigarettes in my mouth for a record. I suppose I am still amazed or at least entertained by the foolish means people will utilized to be remembered or acknowledged. Anabolic pump may not help you jam 2000 cigarettes in your mouth but if it helped...(along with the other supp's) perform this 45 rep set then more power to ya buddy. The thought of the lactic acid accumulation is enough for me to give props!
08-27-2007, 02:47 PM
It's not the whole 45 rep or 200 total rep thing. It is the excercise. I am all for increasing work capacity. This spring I did a full body workout
on day 1 was low reps between 3-6
day 3 moderate range 8-12
day 5 high reps
3 Circuits of Squats, Push-Ups, Deadlifts, and Pulldowns for a duration of 2 minutes. Increasing the load by 5% each set
Reps: 100 (total)
Load: 45-50 reps before failure.
perform as many reps as possible
Continue until you reach 100 reps.
Other phases were similar, but mainly longer circuit work.
My point is. No machines were used keeping the metabolic cost high.
08-27-2007, 02:53 PM
And yes, it is very good to shock a muslce for growth. I think he would have been better off doing 'Squats' not that Smith Machine excercise he was doing. I mean when I see guys at the local gym doing smith machine squats in spandex and belts with their hands behind their head like these guy :bb2: I question the true effectivness of said lift.
Also, strength coaches say the smith machine is worthless, and I concur.
And please do not call a smith machine squat a squat. Or call it the lazy man squat or something
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