6-OXO Extreme & Joint Heath

EasyEJL · 09-15-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by machine528

PA, how do you feel with 2-3 grams? I am taking the reservatol plus at alittle over a gram a day and am feeling very very good.

I've picked up nutrabulk's 1000 caps of 100mg ACTIVE (200mg total of 50%) for $100, plus 120g of loose 50% for $45, so i'll be doing the 2g/day thing shortly too. It was cost prohibitive before this really. I couldn't justify $5/day just for that, but I can handle under $2/day

EasyEJL · 09-15-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

dude i was just ready to go to bed. yes this is out there

i ran into the study recently (there is at least one) and have heard this mentioned by many people knowledgable about resveratrol on boards and in articles. but to track down the article i saw will take time which will mean i am gonna wake up even more of a ***** in the morning then usual. And you guys do NOT wanna deal with that.

So take my word for it

I'll take your word for it, but do you recall the dosage where that starts to happen? 500mg active, 1g, 2g etc?

pearlmatt · 09-16-2007, 08:03 AM

My husband is on this 6-OXO as well as a bunch of his guys and one of them tested positive for Androst, which is found in this supplement. I need to know how long this Androst stays in the body when taken orally, I have read conflicting sites saying just a few days to several months. Please help if you can!

Patrick Arnold · 09-16-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Arzi75

Just ordered my first 6-OXO Extreme - as I have been struggling with some gyno for some time, I have used quite a few AIs to keep my gyno in check, plus, at same time wishing to gain some elevation in my T-levels.

As a consequence, I have developed some serious conditions in my joints, knees expecially, to the extent of not being able to walk up a flight of stairs without some orthopedic support on.

Should I expect to see the same type of exacerbation of my joint problems with 6-OXO or is 6-OXO more lenient on your joints i.e. will not dry out my joints like the most other ATD variants on the market currently?

I plan to dose the 6-OXO at a 100-300mg range to gain the most out of the LH elevation and to alleviate the effects it might have on my joints.

there is no such thing as drying out of joints. joint discomfort that might arise from estrogen depletion would be due to alterations in prostaglandin synthesis resulting in greater inflammation

anyway, its hard for me to imagine 6-oxo or extreme doing this. they do not lower estrogen to troublesome levels

Patrick Arnold · 09-16-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pearlmatt

My husband is on this 6-OXO as well as a bunch of his guys and one of them tested positive for Androst, which is found in this supplement. I need to know how long this Androst stays in the body when taken orally, I have read conflicting sites saying just a few days to several months. Please help if you can!

androst is not a drug

i don't understand

pearlmatt · 09-16-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

androst is not a drug

i don't understand

Well the androst is found in this 6OXO supplement and the army was testing specifically for that compound in the guys. Androst and all its forms are banned compounds and they make you test positive when tested for steroids.

So, tons of these guys were on this supplement without any knowledge that it contained a banned substance. So, now all we are trying to find out is how long that substance stays in the body.

Any help would be appreciated.

rpen22 · 09-16-2007, 03:02 PM

What do you mean by "Androst"? Androstenedione?

EasyEJL · 09-16-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pearlmatt

Well the androst is found in this 6OXO supplement and the army was testing specifically for that compound in the guys. Androst and all its forms are banned compounds and they make you test positive when tested for steroids.

So, tons of these guys were on this supplement without any knowledge that it contained a banned substance. So, now all we are trying to find out is how long that substance stays in the body.

Any help would be appreciated.

The army tests for that? I find that hard to believe. If they are only testing for the substance itself, it shouldn't have more than 24-48 hrs in system in detectable amounts tho

pearlmatt · 09-16-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rpen22

What do you mean by "Androst"? Androstenedione?

yes.

pearlmatt · 09-16-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EasyEJL

The army tests for that? I find that hard to believe. If they are only testing for the substance itself, it shouldn't have more than 24-48 hrs in system in detectable amounts tho

Well, he is not sure what other supplements may have caused the positive test, they had no idea that this supplement would.

Does anyone know if there are any banned substances, like androst, in any of the following?

sostonal by IDS, not by webber
sostonal 250
methandrol 50 by webber
bulk tabs by IDS
and oxo 6 by ergopharms

those are some of the things the guys took so at this point they are unsure what caused the positive drug test...

People are coming up hot on tests, please help us figure out what compound in these is making them hot. Help me figure out how long it will be in the system and testable from urine

how do we shorten the time its detectable
or increase chances it wont be detected
they are testing specifically for roids

**jasonschaffin** · 09-16-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pearlmatt

Well, he is not sure what other supplements may have caused the positive test, they had no idea that this supplement would.

Does anyone know if there are any banned substances, like androst, in any of the following?

sostonal by IDS, not by webber
sostonal 250
methandrol 50 by webber
bulk tabs by IDS
and oxo 6 by ergopharms

those are some of the things the guys took so at this point they are unsure what caused the positive drug test...

People are coming up hot on tests, please help us figure out what compound in these is making them hot. Help me figure out how long it will be in the system and testable from urine

how do we shorten the time its detectable
or increase chances it wont be detected
they are testing specifically for roids

WOW are you serious?

Those first 4 all are steroids.

Patrick Arnold · 09-17-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pearlmatt

Well the androst is found in this 6OXO supplement and the army was testing specifically for that compound in the guys. Androst and all its forms are banned compounds and they make you test positive when tested for steroids.

So, tons of these guys were on this supplement without any knowledge that it contained a banned substance. So, now all we are trying to find out is how long that substance stays in the body.

Any help would be appreciated.

6-oxo is sold at some military bases son. its not banned in gov't or military and will not make you test positive for steroids

just cuz "androst" is in the root of the name does not mean it is the same as the prohormones with the "androst" in the names

you are confused

Patrick Arnold · 09-17-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pearlmatt

Well, he is not sure what other supplements may have caused the positive test, they had no idea that this supplement would.

Does anyone know if there are any banned substances, like androst, in any of the following?

sostonal by IDS, not by webber
sostonal 250
methandrol 50 by webber
bulk tabs by IDS
and oxo 6 by ergopharms

those are some of the things the guys took so at this point they are unsure what caused the positive drug test...

People are coming up hot on tests, please help us figure out what compound in these is making them hot. Help me figure out how long it will be in the system and testable from urine

how do we shorten the time its detectable
or increase chances it wont be detected
they are testing specifically for roids

jeezus you have 4 potent designer steroids on that list plus 6-oxo and you blame 6-oxo?

call rick collins or something

Patrick Arnold · 09-17-2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonschaffin

WOW are you serious?

Those first 4 all are steroids.

this is what happens when a company tries to hide the fact that their product contains designer steroids. pretty crappy for you guys sorry

thesinner · 09-17-2007, 09:19 AM

6-oxo (on a molecular level) is basically 4-AD with a third ketone group on it, correct?

I can't remember if that would entail breaking a double bond or something.

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Patrick Arnold · 09-17-2007, 09:52 AM

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