Saw these two on a website I used to frequent and was wondering if anyone here has tried these and what their observations were. I use Anagen as part of my PCT regimen and like the way it helps me retain some of my gains. I have tried the 2% turk and wasn't impressed. I am wondering if high doses of this 20-Beta-HydroxyEcdystrone 60% and adding in some of that Cordyceps powder might make for a nice non-hormonal cycle.