[koi1214]

Thanks to the help from RenegadeRows.I am starting an All Natural bulkingroutine for the next 4 months.I have used Animal Flex in the past.I would like feedback from people who have used both a Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM product and a Cissus product on which one worked best for you.I tried"SEARCH".I would appreciate some input from the vets.
Thanks alot
Joe

[Seth1013]

Yeah i have the same question about what would be the best Cissus product to buy

[Arzi75]

Originally Posted by koi1214

Thanks to the help from RenegadeRows.I am starting an All Natural bulkingroutine for the next 4 months.I have used Animal Flex in the past.I would like feedback from people who have used both a Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM product and a Cissus product on which one worked best for you.I tried"SEARCH".I would appreciate some input from the vets.
Thanks alot
Joe

Hey guys, check out my log Arzi75's Super Cissus Rx Log. I just started this log last week in order to find out can Super Cissus Rx really outperform a solid joint supp stack of Glucosamine, Chonroitin acid and MSM (each taken daily), or even NSAIDs (like Diclofenac or Celecoxib).

I have been taking the above stuff almost daily for a long time and my goal is to eventually replace at least the other joint supps in my supp cabinet with a bottle of Cissus product, if the results are good.

[Arzi75]

Originally Posted by Seth1013

Yeah i have the same question about what would be the best Cissus product to buy

I did a couple posts here before purchasing the Super Cissus Rx asking the same questions - it basically boils down to which % extract you want to opt for - the consensus seems to be that the 10% extract (like the one in Super Cissus Rx) seems to carry a range of antioxidantal properties that is best suited for joint support - the higher extracts usually carry more anabolic effects like increased stength and/or increased metabolism.

See the complete posts here:

Incarnate - 20 % Extract vs. 10% Extract

Super Cissus Rx - 10% Extract vs. 20% Extract

[dethklok]

Since starting the use of cissus I have not found it necessary to purchase another glucosamine-chondroitin-msm product.

[koi1214]

Hey Arzi75 thanks for the info.
Dethlok which Cissus product are you using and at what dose?

[dethklok]

Your sweetspot dose is dependent on your current needs. I am cycling a dry compound and using Bulk Super Cissus RX from NutraPlanet at 7-8g ed in split doses.

[koi1214]

Originally Posted by dethklok

Your sweetspot dose is dependent on your current needs. I am cycling a dry compound and using Bulk Super Cissus RX from NutraPlanet at 7-8g ed in split doses.

How do you take it in the bulk form?I mean just add it with
protein shake or do you cap them.
Also 1.5grm=1/4 teaspoon right

[dethklok]

Cap and take on an empty stomach.

1/4 tsp = ~1100 mg

[EasyEJL]

I'm double dosing osteobolin-c plus taking chondroitin/glucosamine, and still have occasional joint pain. sucks to get old

[Big BAMA]

I use Super Cissus RX by USP labs and I will swear by them. I quit taking Gluc,MSM ands Chond. The Cissus works wonders for my ole Airborne Knees and Ligaments.

[Distilled Water]

I also take Super Cissus-RX (not at the moment but during ball season) I love it. I was on Glucosamine/Chon/MSM. That was good for my knees and what not but Cissus-RX seems to help with my tendons i.e. elbows and shoulders from throwing.

I will admit I thought it was garbage at first, it took about 3 weeks to kick in at 1 in the morning and 1 before bed but it did. When I knew I was going to throw alot that week I'd double the dose and could really tell a difference.

Super Cissus RX is kick when it comes to joint/legiment pain. Seems to have a long lasting effect also, Infact this summer I was pitching again (after 3 year of nothing but playing the feild) and have almost Zero arm problems.....this is the first whole year since little leauge I have had arm problems

[EasyEJL]

I probably should try oratropin and see if that helps any. Nothing really grows back cartillage anyhow

[Arzi75]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

I'm double dosing osteobolin-c plus taking chondroitin/glucosamine, and still have occasional joint pain. sucks to get old

EasyEJL, you really are double-dosing EVERYTHING! You double-dosing your glucosamine, too, or just the Osteobolin-C?

I haven't yet tried double-dosing Cissus as I'm frankly a little bit concerned about elevated estrogen levels that doing so might possibly cause - just taking the recommended 3-4 caps a day. On the other hand, I guess slightly elevated e-levels are actually good for joint health? I think my joint problems really exacerbated when I took a couple of anti-E's for too long, I guess, which caused my joint problems to flare up.

On glucosamine, I like to go for the 2000mg-3000mg range although not sure if any evidence exists that would support dosing any higher than the recommended 1500mg a day, but I guess I am just of the type that likes to double or even superdose on me supps.

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by Arzi75

EasyEJL, you really are double-dosing EVERYTHING! You double-dosing your glucosamine, too, or just the Osteobolin-C?

I haven't yet tried double-dosing Cissus as I'm frankly a little bit concerned about elevated estrogen levels that doing so might possibly cause - just taking the recommended 3-4 caps a day. On the other hand, I guess slightly elevated e-levels are actually good for joint health? I think my joint problems really exacerbated when I took a couple of anti-E's for too long, I guess, which caused my joint problems to flare up.

On glucosamine, I like to go for the 2000mg-3000mg range although not sure if any evidence exists that would support dosing any higher than the recommended 1500mg a day, but I guess I am just of the type that likes to double or even superdose on me supps.

Yeah, I'm at the 2-3g a day on the G/C/M too I only do it with supps in my problem areas, scouts honor