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  1. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    For some reason, sugar'n'salt seems to be the most cost effective performance enhancer the world has ever seen.
    speakin of placebo effect, how did your buddy's flour havoc cycle go? was it funny?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by billm311 View Post
    speakin of placebo effect, how did your buddy's flour havoc cycle go? was it funny?
    He never finished it (still has some caps sittin' about his apartment), but his deadlift honestly went up about 50lbs with "flourbol". He was struggling with 275lbs when he started, and was repping 315 when he finished.

    He's ~kai~184.
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  3. your an idiot


    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Warrior View Post
    They all suck but I went with Aplodan because I have extreme hate for Muscle-Tech. I guess there must be plenty of newbies and morons out there who believe this. I gotta admit that I fell for the Nitro-Tech trick when I was 16. I thought I'd look like Arnold in 1 month because I actually believed the ad LOL.
    Ya you used ONE MT product for a month, it didnt work so now ever since you were 16 you hate MT? You have to actually work out on supp ya know? haha I took nitro/Mass stack and gained 60 lbs in 9 weeks, not flauntin nitro or mass or MT but it worked, so you need to stop blamin your saggy mom titties on your diet and schedule not a supp. lol
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  4. Lol. saggy titties. Is that post a joke or something

  5. kprimm-


    I've read some of your posts regarding Muscle-Tech which you seem to be a big fan of and utterly convinced that they work (I mean the graphs in the magazines explain that they do). You don't have Downs Syndrome or something do you ? Its not an attack, I'm just asking a question.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    kprimm-


    I've read some of your posts regarding Muscle-Tech which you seem to be a big fan of and utterly convinced that they work (I mean the graphs in the magazines explain that they do). You don't have Downs Syndrome or something do you ? Its not an attack, I'm just asking a question.
    oh suh nap

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    kprimm-


    I've read some of your posts regarding Muscle-Tech which you seem to be a big fan of and utterly convinced that they work (I mean the graphs in the magazines explain that they do). You don't have Downs Syndrome or something do you ? Its not an attack, I'm just asking a question.
    Ya thats what I have, im a ****in retard, a retard that looks better than you, so wahts that make you? hahahahahaha You have a picture of bald britney cause she looks better than you right? Yall talk your ****, but your still behind Reaper, so maybe less talk more lift? I bet you dont even lift, your prob some fat nerd that sits and talks on all kinds of forums, World of Warcraft, Anabolicminds, GayDudes.com, etc. So you just keep spittin in your fist and punchin your clown, ill keep gainin muscle, hahah your a ****in clown.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kprimm View Post
    Ya thats what I have, im a ****in retard, a retard that looks better than you, so wahts that make you? hahahahahaha You have a picture of bald britney cause she looks better than you right? Yall talk your ****, but your still behind Reaper, so maybe less talk more lift? I bet you dont even lift, your prob some fat nerd that sits and talks on all kinds of forums, World of Warcraft, Anabolicminds, GayDudes.com, etc. So you just keep spittin in your fist and punchin your clown, ill keep gainin muscle, hahah your a ****in clown.

    I just want to point out for the record that you admitted being retarded, not denying it. Thanks for being honest. That's all I wanted to know.
  9. Talking


    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    I just want to point out for the record that you admitted being retarded, not denying it. Thanks for being honest. That's all I wanted to know.
    ya, thats what I thought, fatty Sucks to be you ***** lol

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kprimm View Post
    ya, thats what I thought, fatty Sucks to be you ***** lol
    I'll second that 'lol' lol.
  11. Talking


    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    I'll second that 'lol' lol.
    Why dont you get the **** off a weight lifting forum, you no nothing about weight lifting or supplements.....Your an idiot, and your not funny....like i said, sucks to be you...i have to go WORK OUT, so you keep lickin your palm and beatin your junk fat tits

  12. O.K. kids play nice.
    KPrimm, 60lbs in 9 weeks on Muscle Tech, Really Just Muscle Tech?
    How much Did Six weeks run you? 300.00 or 400.00 dollars? You could have paid half that and had the same effects.
    60lbs in 9 weeks you should compete.

  13. Comedy gold.

  14. Chill out son. Take a look at your grammer there. Are you really proud to be talking like a 6 yr old ? lol.


    Its you are (you're) not 'your' and (know) not 'no'. The only reason why I'm getting at that is b/c you are 23.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by kprimm View Post
    Why dont you get the **** off a weight lifting forum, you no nothing about weight lifting or supplements.....Your an idiot, and your not funny....like i said, sucks to be you...i have to go WORK OUT, so you keep lickin your palm and beatin your junk fat tits
    Stop.
    Count to ten.
    Return, acting like a civilized adult.

    Mods will not appreciate your current attitude.
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  16. My Gawd...this is the funniest damn thread I've read all week!!! No, no, no....MONTH!!! I say thanks so much for the entertainment - it was 30 minutes WELL spent!

    As for my input, I can't admit to taking any of these things. But looking at ingredients, ratios and such, they all do seem to be extremely overpriced. I don't have a load of cash to blow on supplements every week like some people do, so I research everything I buy very well. In my wanderings through various boards and marketplaces, I can honestly say that I've spent a total of maybe 5 minutes reading on each of these. That was enough to discredit them and then move on.

    Oh what fools they think we all must be....
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by kprimm View Post
    Ya you used ONE MT product for a month, it didnt work so now ever since you were 16 you hate MT? You have to actually work out on supp ya know? haha I took nitro/Mass stack and gained 60 lbs in 9 weeks, not flauntin nitro or mass or MT but it worked, so you need to stop blamin your saggy mom titties on your diet and schedule not a supp. lol
    Yes 60lbs in 9 week off nitro/mass stack. I holler.

    At least you are paying for Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, and the rest of the individual's paycheck.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by kprimm View Post
    Why dont you get the **** off a weight lifting forum, you no nothing about weight lifting or supplements.....Your an idiot, and your not funny....like i said, sucks to be you...i have to go WORK OUT, so you keep lickin your palm and beatin your junk fat tits
    This is pretty bold coming from a f*ckin newb. Where are your manners son? You're talking sh*t to a bunch of guys who regularly post information of VALUE here. You haven't earned that right.

    As for your defense of MT, good luck convincing people in these forums that it works. The only ones who will go along with it are others who don't know better.

  19. It was my assumption that the Muscle-Tech support and Downs Syndrome (which I'm assuming he indirectly confirmed) somehow went hand in hand for him.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    It was my assumption that the Muscle-Tech support and Downs Syndrome (which I'm assuming he indirectly confirmed) somehow went hand in hand for him.
    I don't want to insult people with DS by assuming this guy is one of them.
  21. Sinner steps in to say a few words


    Just thought I'd say some things, with regards to the agruments going down on here.

    1) From the pics he's posted, Reaper seems to be in fairly decent shape. Athletic-looking, but not necessarily a brawny,BBer kinda deal (but I don't think that's the physique he's after anyways).

    2) MT products are (1) expensive (2) have very little corraborive data behind them (3) have a lot of hype behind them. Regardless of how well you are convinced they work, comparable results have been scientifically proven using much more economical means.

    3) Through my experiences, the concept of "Lift More" could not be further from truth. You'd be surprised how easily the body can be overtrained. Over the years I've been lifting less and less, and the results seem to operate conversely (coming more and more).

    4) Last Spring, I encapsulated some flour and gave it to a buddy of mine as 'anabolic steroids' (Havoc by RPN). His lifts skyrocketed (went up AT LEAST 10lbs per exercise he did), bodweight increased, and he was more attentive during our workouts. I'm not saying that MT products don't work, and I could really care less if they do, but you simply can't sign off your results as the work of Muscletech products.

    5) You made the point that Muscletech products will only give you results if you eat right and train properly. Well, if you're doing everything right, wouldn't you expect to see results anyhow?

    6) 60lbs in 9 weeks says something to me like "I just did my first bulking phase", "I've been lifting weights for less than 3 years", "I have freaking awesome genetics", or "I just came off a really strict diet". I think my record 23lbs in 3 days after a competition.

    7) Most Wendy's Drive Thru's are open until midnight or later. This doesn't really have to do with anything kprimm was saying, just thought you all shoudl know this.


    Rebuttlements are welcomed and encouraged. Let's please keep them in a somewhat mature and sophisticated tone though (I know, that's tough for me to do as well). If anything, I'll either be educated or entertained.


    Have a nice day.
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  22. Sinner, You got any of the Encapsulated Flour Left?

  23. I was considering taking vitamin C tablets and giving them to my friend and telling him they are Dianabol.

    I know for a fact if I did this and he found out I was bullsh;tting him later on that would probably make him very, very, very pissed off at me.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Big BAMA View Post
    Sinner, You got any of the Encapsulated Flour Left?
    I'm sure I could sell you about 100 caps for something like $40 (S&H included in the cost). That's a pretty sweet deal, so take it or leave it.

    I might also be able to get you some goat spunk for about $0.40 per cap.



    (Note: please don't take my running gags about goats as a means to hijack yet another thread to joke about it. There's funny and then theirs too far.)
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  25. That's still cheaper than Gakic.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    I was considering taking vitamin C tablets and giving them to my friend and telling him they are Dianabol.

    I know for a fact if I did this and he found out I was bullsh;tting him later on that would probably make him very, very, very pissed off at me.
    I try not to speak a word of this to my bro. I also gave it to him for free. If you charge your boy the price of Dianabol for some 500mg VitC's, that would make you an assh*le.
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  27. I was thinking about giving him the tablets for free and telling him 'I got a hook up'.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    I was thinking about giving him the tablets for free and telling him 'I got a hook up'.
    With the help of our good friend Dsade (linked me with a JPEG of the label). I was able to make a counterfeit "Tester Bottle" of Havoc. I doctored up the JPEG beautifully to make it look like it was designed for alpha-testing and printed out the fake label. Had a test bottle# on it (as though they were using for randomized statistics). Told him I was picked to test the product, and they sent me an extra bottle to give to a friend.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    With the help of our good friend Dsade (linked me with a JPEG of the label). I was able to make a counterfeit "Tester Bottle" of Havoc. I doctored up the JPEG beautifully to make it look like it was designed for alpha-testing and printed out the fake label. Had a test bottle# on it (as though they were using for randomized statistics). Told him I was picked to test the product, and they sent me an extra bottle to give to a friend.
    Did you help him set up support supps and PCT too? Or did you just tell him to start taking it?

    Aaaah, the placebo effect. It is quite powerful.

    Also, regarding your 23 pounds in 3 days, how much did you keep and was that actually muscle? Water weight? Just curious.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by EctoPower View Post
    Did you help him set up support supps and post cycle therapy too? Or did you just tell him to start taking it?

    Aaaah, the placebo effect. It is quite powerful.

    Also, regarding your 23 pounds in 3 days, how much did you keep and was that actually muscle? Water weight? Just curious.
    He's never done steroids, doesn't know how to use them (don't know about PCT), and I don't think I'd ever let him (I don't know if he'd be serious enough for the ends to justify the means).

    Regarding the 23lbs (this was about a year and a half ago), I have a tendency to down a sh*t load of waterweight when I contest prep (more than I'd like to actually). Like I'll still look pretty cut @ 20-30lbs heavier than what I weigh in at. This particular contest, I was close enough at weigh-ins to drop down to the next lowest weightclass, so I spat for an hour straight, reweighed, and made it in. I weighed in at 154lbs (anorexically light). Post competition, I ate PANCAKES! and it was beautiful. It was better than discovering masturbation. Carbed up during the weekend and drank gallons of water. Monday the following week, I weighed 177lbs. Yeah, it was a gross amount of water/glycogen weight.
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  31. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    He's never done steroids, doesn't know how to use them (don't know about post cycle therapy), and I don't think I'd ever let him (I don't know if he'd be serious enough for the ends to justify the means).

    Regarding the 23lbs (this was about a year and a half ago), I have a tendency to down a sh*t load of waterweight when I contest prep (more than I'd like to actually). Like I'll still look pretty cut @ 20-30lbs heavier than what I weigh in at. This particular contest, I was close enough at weigh-ins to drop down to the next lowest weightclass, so I spat for an hour straight, reweighed, and made it in. I weighed in at 154lbs (anorexically light). Post competition, I ate PANCAKES! and it was beautiful. It was better than discovering masturbation. Carbed up during the weekend and drank gallons of water. Monday the following week, I weighed 177lbs. Yeah, it was a gross amount of water/glycogen weight.


    That's about what I thought! Pancakes must have been amazing after cutting down like that. I can only imagine. Did most of that work its way out naturally as you transitioned back to your regular diet, or did you really have to work it back off?

  32. Quote Originally Posted by EctoPower View Post


    That's about what I thought! Pancakes must have been amazing after cutting down like that. I can only imagine. Did most of that work its way out naturally as you transitioned back to your regular diet, or did you really have to work it back off?
    Well my aldosterone levels were all out of whack for a little while(hormone that stores water and electrolytes in fat tissues). So definition was a little blurred for a while (and my spray tan had broken out in stretch-marks becase I had significantly grown since the time I was Jan-Tana-fied). Back then I still looked good at 177lbs. Nowadays, I'd be pretty cut at 177lbs.

    I think the big thing that I had to work at was getting my diet back on track because the food I ate while dieting was terrible, and I can no longer stand the sight,smell, or taste of baked whiting fish. Now that I could eat a little less disgusting food, I enjoyed it a little too much, had 'seconds', and wouldn't be hungry in time for my next scheduled meal.
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  33. Date Dare Celltech

  34. Quote Originally Posted by kprimm View Post
    Why dont you get the **** off a weight lifting forum, you no nothing about weight lifting or supplements.....Your an idiot, and your not funny....like i said, sucks to be you...i have to go WORK OUT, so you keep lickin your palm and beatin your junk fat tits
    Didnt i put your nonsense down in another thread already? Im tempted to rep you just for the good times youre providing everyone. Just a suggestion. If youre going nut up on someone in a forum atleast get some facts in. Your worthless **** talk is making me cringe along with with the fact that you have the audacity to call someone an idiot. Pot calling the kettle black? This thread rocks

  35. Quote Originally Posted by Frequency View Post
    Didnt i put your nonsense down in another thread already? Im tempted to rep you just for the good times youre providing everyone. Just a suggestion. If youre going nut up on someone in a forum atleast get some facts in. Your worthless **** talk is making me cringe along with with the fact that you have the audacity to call someone an idiot. Pot calling the kettle black? This thread rocks
    I've read his posts in other threads.....um....yeah.....

  36. I'm so ammused, it makes me want to go out and buy Muscle-tech-crap from GNC on non-Gold card days, take all the stuff at once, then take a dump in the container. And then I'll post pictures here!! HA!!

    No, not really going to, but DAMN...I'm so amused here!!!
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  37. Quote Originally Posted by timdull2 View Post
    I'm so ammused, it makes me want to go out and buy Muscle-tech-crap from GNC on non-Gold card days, take all the stuff at once, then take a dump in the container. And then I'll post pictures here!! HA!!

    No, not really going to, but DAMN...I'm so amused here!!!
    At least the entertainment is making you happy. The customer is always #1, always.

  38. Best supplement ever: Happy!
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  39. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post

    I might also be able to get you some goat spunk for about $0.40 per cap.


    For another $5, you can bust the cap in his ass.


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  40. Dsade, It only works with the STRAP-On cycle from Fizogen.
  

  
 

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