Morning Stimulants...

[PumpingIron]

I don't use stims preworkout, but I do pretty much every morning, instead of the normal cup of coffee...

I've been using Stimulant X for quite a while now and was thinking about changing it up a little with my newest NP order...

...so I ask for any suggestions. Only thing is I'd like it find something cost effective and doesn't have a crash. Fatloss isn't an issue, so basically just overall stimulant effect.

 

[Big BAMA]

Rpm?

 

[PumpingIron]

I've tried it and liked it, but it isn't truly all that cost effective...30 bucks for just about 22 days isn't really horrible...I guess I'll keep it on my list.

 

[TheMyth]

RPM by a long shot. I take that about 20 minutes before I wake up (set my alarm), then get up and get ready, then eat. By then I am supercharged to go!

 

[TheMyth]

Get some Reset AD and you can take less RPM's, it cut my dosage in half!

 

[PumpingIron]

Myth, I think you might need to shoot me over a bottle or 2...seeing as how you work for them now.

 

[john123131]

Leviathan.....2 everymorning = 45 days worth, thats if your just using it for stim purposes in the am, and its on sale @ nutra right now for 26.95....or just ephedrine, cheap and effective

 

[TheMyth]

I havn't even gotten my supps yet! I think Lanbane and Buff stole mine! I am still using my own stash of AN products I bought on my last order from NP!

 

[john123131]

haha....welcome to becoming a rep Myth, everyone wants a peice of ya..hahaha...jk

 

[TheMyth]

O yea, Leviathon is great as well! Leviathon for the morning, along with 1-2 caps of RPM for the naringin to prolong the leviathon, then the RPM for before your workout! I will have to try that, didn't think about that! If that doesn't get you going, I don't know what will!

 

[PumpingIron]

Leviathan.....2 everymorning = 45 days worth, thats if your just using it for stim purposes in the am, and its on sale @ nutra right now for 26.95....or just ephedrine, cheap and effective

not bad, thanks for the suggestion.

 

[PumpingIron]

haha....welcome to becoming a rep Myth, everyone wants a peice of ya..hahaha...jk

Hey hey, I pay for my drugs. It was just a joke

 

[john123131]

Hey hey, I pay for my drugs. It was just a joke

lol..i know....i was playing..ill be hittin him up too link the rpm junkie I am...haha..jk

 

[PumpingIron]

Myth, out of curiousity? I'm pushin 210lbs...how little of RPM do you think I'd be able to get away with for a morning pick me up?

 

[IronBear]

look up a product called yellow cross, its the f'in kitchen sink

 

[heebs10]

look up a product called yellow cross, its the f'in kitchen sink

that has ephedrine in it right?

 

[TheMyth]

Myth, out of curiousity? I'm pushin 210lbs...how little of RPM do you think I'd be able to get away with for a morning pick me up?

Well, empty stomach, I can get away with 2-3 for the pickmeup. I am 215, so around where you are man. I am taking Reset AD along with it though, so it may be more for you. Since Leviathon sounds like the best choice for the pure stim pickmeup, you would only need 1-2 RPM's to get the naringin effects to prolong the stim.

 

[matthew76]

yellow cross has been linked to heart valve problems... stuff has a chemical in it that is not listed (i will try to find the article, bare with me, i am on a plane and not at my desk) and was compared to pesticides -

PI - RPM treats me well with 4 caps (216 7.9%BF 6'1) sometimes i bump up to 5, but just on rare occasions when i have an extended run (10-12 miles) reset ad does cut down on the number i have been taking recently, though (3)

hope this helps - good luck!

 

[EasyEJL]

You could try Shred-XS or Shred-XS hardcore from Millienium too, but they are more geared towards also being fatloss, so there are appetite suppressants as well. They are nice clean long term no crash energy tho

 

[IronBear]

yellow cross has been linked to heart valve problems... stuff has a chemical in it that is not listed (i will try to find the article, bare with me, i am on a plane and not at my desk) and was compared to pesticides -

wouldnt suprise me, all I know is phed,yerbamate and the rest of it is a ridiculously stacked combination.

 

[EasyEJL]

Thinking about it, regardless of what you go with as the stim, you really pick up a bottle of Reset AD to go with it. Helps cut the dose you need down, and helps reduce your body's dependency on it too

 

[TheMyth]

Thinking about it, regardless of what you go with as the stim, you really pick up a bottle of Reset AD to go with it. Helps cut the dose you need down, and helps reduce your body's dependency on it too

x2!

 

[matthew76]

did you get any? (RPM)

 

[thesinner]

caffeine+kool-aide seems to work pretty well.

Take with some cheap niacin (gotta be the cheap stuff, that's not 'flush-free'). This will enhance stimulant effects as well as speed up how quickly the caffeine will 'kick in'.

 

[PumpingIron]

rpm came in the mail today.

i've tried a sample before...and like the buzz/energy but that was preworkout.

...i'll give it a whirl in place of stim x tomorrow

 

[JJC]

You can also buy some grapefruit (maybe even 100% grapefruit juice) to increase the effects of your stims. From what I've read, half a grapefruit with your stims will help kick it up a notch. Or like everyone else has said, try Reset AD.

[Grapefruit is a natural source of naringin]

 

[PumpingIron]

grapefruit also has a ton of sugar in it.

 

[JJC]

Half of a large grapefruit (4.5" diameter) contains ~13.4g carbs, of which ~11.6 g are sugar. Half of a small grapefruit (3.5" diameter) is at ~8.1 g/~7 g, respectively.

I can understand your reservations (I think we all try to avoid sugars/high gi carbs when we can), but if taken in the morning (as the topic discusses) you should be ok. This is somewhat similar to people who put honey/raisins/berries in their oats or Ezekiel cereal...you can just swap one for the other.

Just a thought.

 

[PumpingIron]

Half of a large grapefruit (4.5" diameter) contains ~13.4g carbs, of which ~11.6 g are sugar. Half of a small grapefruit (3.5" diameter) is at ~8.1 g/~7 g, respectively.

I can understand your reservations (I think we all try to avoid sugars/high gi carbs when we can), but if taken in the morning (as the topic discusses) you should be ok. This is somewhat similar to people who put honey/raisins/berries in their oats or Ezekiel cereal...you can just swap one for the other.

Just a thought.

Appreciate it. I stay away from sugar as much as possible. I've never heard of Ezekiel cereal though...though I am addicted to the bread.

 

[pistonpump]

Amp

 

[PumpingIron]

If I could find the original amp, I would.

 

[slow-mun]

Here's few that I've been using....

Gaspari's Cytolean(not very strong, but nice nootrophic effects)
Genera Supplements Adrenaline-cheap, effiicient, yohimbine free
Bio-Test Spike (Caffeine Free)- I take this with morning coffee, if I feel the urge and its very good.

I wouldn't use RPM daily as a stim unless you're trying to shed some extra lbs as well. It definitely has a thermogenic effect to it. I walk around like a fat guy in a donut factory on that stuff.

 

[pistonpump]

what about an epedhra product? I know of a real good looking one ill probably pick up and its legally available at a popular website......its by Hi-Tech

 

[slow-mun]

Here's an e-mail I just got this a.m.-

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[xjsynx]

Spike Shooter

 

[xjsynx]

Otherwise, stim wise I liked the old Stimulant X.

 

[McBurly]

Personally I love Venom. I haven't tried the new version yet because one bottle is lasting me forever. I take 1 pill in the am before I shower and I've been dosing at this for 2 weeks now, I'm not noticing any tolerance building up as of yet. But I do take ashwaganda at night which may help prevent any tolerance from building up. 90 pills for $30 is a pretty good deal. No crash, only problem is if your not trying to lose weight this does kill your appetite

 

[xjsynx]

Personally I love Venom. I haven't tried the new version yet because one bottle is lasting me forever. I take 1 pill in the am before I shower and I've been dosing at this for 2 weeks now, I'm not noticing any tolerance building up as of yet. But I do take ashwaganda at night which may help prevent any tolerance from building up. 90 pills for $30 is a pretty good deal. No crash, only problem is if your not trying to lose weight this does kill your appetite

...and some serious shrinkage. It kills my libido.

 

[rxp1997]

Myth, out of curiousity? I'm pushin 210lbs...how little of RPM do you think I'd be able to get away with for a morning pick me up?

at 230lbs 2RPMS give me a very nice morning boost w/o a crash, I use it once in a while when I forget to take my StimX and don't feel like walking a flight of stairs to get it. Now that I am running out of StimX (old formula) I am thinking of changing up as I have read mainly bad reviews on the new formula. Maybe I will try leviathan, resetAD and one rpm...

 

[bLacKjAck.]

Maybe I will try leviathan, resetAD and one rpm...

You will love it man...

Reset A.D makes any stim work so much more effectively.

 

[JZ7757]

^^Me too. Im starting to build up a tolerance to stim-x. I might just try lev and RPM on my next NP order. Ill def give reset a try, reguardless.