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Although it is all different names and created by different brand name companies, what is the major corporation that stands out?
I thought that was ACME?Ajax- The same place Willie Coyote gets all his neat stuff.
Although it is all different names and created by different brand name companies, what is the major corporation that stands out?
Yes, PA hands down dominates the cornfield market. Competition beware.are you talking about who is the biggest contract manufacturer? the biggest raw material supplier? or the biggest private label company?
we have the biggest cornfield
talking about what is the pharmaceutical company that researches and developes the supplements.are you talking about who is the biggest contract manufacturer? the biggest raw material supplier? or the biggest private label company?
we have the biggest cornfield
Pharmaceutical companies don't make supplements. Supplement companies make supplements. Pharma companies are regulated by the FDA; supplement companies are not. Big, huge difference.talking about what is the pharmaceutical company that researches and developes the supplements.
i am interested in the whole process. from the pharmaceutical company that research to the companies that develops it to the distributors that distributors. any idea where i can find these ideas? i would try google but i need something more fine to start off.Pharmaceutical companies don't make supplements. Supplement companies make supplements. Pharma companies are regulated by the FDA; supplement companies are not. Big, huge difference.
Not sure what you're getting at here. :blink:
Where does the research come from that makes old supplements obsolete? I know the "research" is paid for by the companies by where do scientist come in and "research" it?As stated, pharmaceutical companies do not make supplements or do the research for them.
Good postTo be 100% honest, that's the golden question. Every company is doing things differently. You have Ergopharm with a skilled chemist, and then you have marketing companies that just pile dozens of ingredients into a pill and hype it. Wide range of approaches.
Shaklee Corporation is the largest natural supplement company. Once owned partially by yamanouchi pharmaceutical one of the largest drug companies in japan and around the world.
Shaklee does there own research and even getting there products published in peer review medical journals.
They fly around the world to find raw materials to do research. They even have tones of supplements not sold but just done for research reasons. They have been around for 50+ years in the biz. "Many of them don't do any research at all. Research is incredibly expensive. They get bigger profits by just going with whatever the hype machine is spewing out, without ever coming to their own conclusions."
Shaklee I know from the guy I buy from he said they spent over 250 million in R and D. Not sure if that is a lot.
Thanks man! I only had to give 3, I guess I was just that good.....or bad???myth finally got the rep job i see, so how many lap dances did you h ave to give, your a good guy and glad to see you got it
Well then Shaklee is doing there job and has been as 50 years is a long time for a company to be around and I herd they actually had a product 40 years before that before they became a company. I just looked at my catalog I buy from and says 1915 is there 1st product. So they must be doing something right or else for 90 years they have been ripping people off lol. Now if more people would do research on there products/raw materials even have published studies on there product not the raw martial than I think we would have better products. If the FDA did say with out published studies than you can't have a product I think over 75-85% of the companies would be out of business. Bottom line. I work in a Dr's office where people take these generic brands or OTC supplement and when time comes for blood work ends up being a placebo.I think as a buying consumer, a company has a responsibility towards consumers being that they are taking our money. If research is needed, they need to do it. There is nothing wrong with a fair trade in goods, but like I said, I know a lot of people work pretty f-cking hard for their money and they deserve to have the company uphold their end of the bargain.
I'm not familiar with Shaklee, so I'll have to look them up. But just a couple follow ups. First, I agree with your comment about the majority of companies going out of business if they were forced to publish research on their products. This was basically my original point. Many companies out there are downright fradulent. Second, "or else for 90 years they have been ripping people off." This would not be unheard of! Talk to me in about 80 years and if Muscletech is still around, you owe me a pint! I'll be 109, so my doctor will have to approve the beer... Aw, screw him! But many, many companies, including grand old companies like Ford, GE, etc. have been around for decades and it could be argued that they have ripped people off at some point in their existence.Well then Shaklee is doing there job and has been as 50 years is a long time for a company to be around and I herd they actually had a product 40 years before that before they became a company. I just looked at my catalog I buy from and says 1915 is there 1st product. So they must be doing something right or else for 90 years they have been ripping people off lol. Now if more people would do research on there products/raw materials even have published studies on there product not the raw martial than I think we would have better products. If the FDA did say with out published studies than you can't have a product I think over 75-85% of the companies would be out of business. Bottom line. I work in a Dr's office where people take these generic brands or OTC supplement and when time comes for blood work ends up being a placebo.
I'm not familiar with Shaklee, so I'll have to look them up. But just a couple follow ups. First, I agree with your comment about the majority of companies going out of business if they were forced to publish research on their products. This was basically my original point. Many companies out there are downright fradulent. Second, "or else for 90 years they have been ripping people off." This would not be unheard of! Talk to me in about 80 years and if Muscletech is still around, you owe me a pint! I'll be 109, so my doctor will have to approve the beer... Aw, screw him! But many, many companies, including grand old companies like Ford, GE, etc. have been around for decades and it could be argued that they have ripped people off at some point in their existence.
Bottom line is that it's important to be skeptical.
I had the impressions that the majority of companies have theirPharmaceutical companies don't make supplements. Supplement companies make supplements.
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