What are the top coporations or companies that make the majority of the supplements?
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08-01-2007, 05:24 PM
If you're looking for the major companies that stand out, look at the ones with the most print ads. lol. They tend to have the highest budgets. BSN, MuscleTech, EAS, MetRX.
This however does not equate to efficacy.
08-01-2007, 05:33 PM
08-01-2007, 05:36 PM
To be 100% honest, that's the golden question. Every company is doing things differently. You have Ergopharm with a skilled chemist, and then you have marketing companies that just pile dozens of ingredients into a pill and hype it. Wide range of approaches.
08-01-2007, 06:21 PM
Many of them don't do any research at all. Research is incredibly expensive. They get bigger profits by just going with whatever the hype machine is spewing out, without ever coming to their own conclusions.
ZMA for instance. Vic Conte starts marketing it and everybody jumped on. Did they all do their own research? H*ll no! They just sold it. Basically the same with beta-alanine. One scientist discovered a muscle building use for it and got a patent. Now everybody has to pay him to use it in their own products. You think they're paying even more to make sure it works? No way.
That doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't work, just that supplement companies are NOT research companies, for the most part. Ergopharm may be an exception, AX may be an exception, and I think AST is an exception.
08-01-2007, 07:25 PM
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I have found that the sponsors from this board have the most effective products! They arn't as heavily advertised, but they don't need to advertise...because their products speak for themselves, they work! That is all the advertising you need, and they are all generouse about samples so you can judge for yourself! Stick with the guys from this forum, only the best are allowed to advertise here. It isn't about who can shell out the most money to advertise here, its about product effectiveness...otherwise you woudl see EAS, BSN, and Muscle Tech only here!
08-01-2007, 11:13 PM
myth finally got the rep job i see, so how many lap dances did you h ave to give, your a good guy and glad to see you got it
08-01-2007, 11:33 PM
Yeah I believe Muscle-Tech came out with their whole million dollar budget or whatever, made their own ZMA night formula then added NAC as one of the compounds.
NAC can chelate to a certain degree, so why put it in ZMA when you need that Zinc ?
I have such a large detest for Muscle-Tech because they piggyback IFBB pros and the bodybuilding sport, disrespect it with all their garbage ads/promises then reap all the money in. All their 'research' is done overseas like University of Milan or some bullsh-t. That's so f-cking shady. I disreguard research unless it is done in the US under a university that I recognize. If a company believes in their product and stands by it, then they should have no problem proving it otherwise in the US, not some overseas crap.
In a lot of their ads in magazines they rip on other supplements, one that I've noticed in particular is MHP. They have the audacity to call other companies out when the stuff they push is nothing shy of worthless.
Atleast BSN has Endorush, and they have advertising. They don't overkill the bullsh-t in magazines like Muscle-Tech does.
p.s. Does anyone notice Russia's studies seem to always be used to prove just about anything ? Seems like over there they can prove it even if it cannot ever be proved anywhere else. Damn Ruskies.
p.s.s. Oh yeah even if your results suck from Muscle-Tech they got your money anyway so they come out a winner reguardless.
08-01-2007, 11:44 PM
Shaklee Corporation is the largest natural supplement company. Once owned partially by yamanouchi pharmaceutical one of the largest drug companies in japan and around the world.
Shaklee does there own research and even getting there products published in peer review medical journals.
They fly around the world to find raw materials to do research. They even have tones of supplements not sold but just done for research reasons. They have been around for 50+ years in the biz. "Many of them don't do any research at all. Research is incredibly expensive. They get bigger profits by just going with whatever the hype machine is spewing out, without ever coming to their own conclusions."
Shaklee I know from the guy I buy from he said they spent over 250 million in R and D. Not sure if that is a lot.
08-01-2007, 11:48 PM
I think as a buying consumer, a company has a responsibility towards consumers being that they are taking our money. If research is needed, they need to do it. There is nothing wrong with a fair trade in goods, but like I said, I know a lot of people work pretty f-cking hard for their money and they deserve to have the company uphold their end of the bargain.
08-02-2007, 12:22 AM
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Bottom line is that it's important to be skeptical.
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02-06-2008, 12:50 PM
Actually few drug companies do make supplements like vitamin D supplements and fish oil i.e omacor by Lovazar and many pre natal vitamins are prescription.
02-07-2008, 03:44 PM
I apologize but I'm having trouble understanding your post. Did you mean to say "Actually a few drug companies..." or did you mean it how you wrote it?
One is agreeing with my post and the other isn't.
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