Leviathon or RPM

beric83

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I am on a limited budget and I am looking into both Palo Alto Labs' Leviathon and Applied Nutriceuticals' RPM. I like both of them based on the research I have done thus far. However, I am ridiculously indecisive. So, I am asking which, in your oppinion, is the better and more effective product? Also even if I wanted to it seems like it would be redundant if I purchased both, is that a correct assessment?
My goals are to add muscle and lean out as much as possible.
 
Always tough to make decisions like this especially when you are on a budget. I'll just put in my .02 since i have tried both of these products and like them both very well. First of all these products are really only similar in that they are both great products from great companies but in reality they are two different products imo. Leviathan worked more as a fat burner/ appetite sup while helping me retain muscle and boost the natty test. Energy was good but the only downside is that yohimbe makes me a little anxious and this has a high dose of it. On the other hand RPM works great for energy and boosting the natty test but it also makes my workouts pretty insane and gives me great pumps. If i was you i would go with the RPM for now considering your goals but if you got the $ in the future and are looking for a great fat burner give the leviathan a try too.
 
For your goals, coug is right, RPM would be better for your goals. Leviathon is an ausome product as well, more suited for a cut though. Definetly try both ou tthough, neither will dissapoint!
 
I will tell you that no matter which one you choose, you won't be dissappointed. I'm not huge into supps like many people here so I pick and choose very carefully what I'm going to take. Besides the basic protein, multi, fish, BCAA, etc. they only 2 I've done are Leviathan and RPM. I'll be honest on what I felt (same diet during both)

Leviathan:
Smoother energy, calmer more consistent friendlier energy
Felt somewhat hot a lot of the time throughout the day
Helped me lean out and retained muscle gains
I did not lose any weight while on it but I feel that I did lean out, probably gains in muscle what I lost in fat (3-4lbs in 2 months I'd say)

RPM:
More aggressive energy, sometime almost angry irritated engery
Felt very hot about 1-3 hours after taking it but not so much during the rest of hte day - sweat like crazy during the workout.
I feel very sore after lifting now b/c I really push it when lifting.
I'm 3 weeks into it so it's hard to say the final result but so far have made some strength gains in the gym but body weight has not really changed. Maybe 1 lb in 3 weeks.

Bottom Line: You can't go wrong with either one. If I had to pick just one right now I'd go with RPM b/c I currently like the aggressive nature of it, but I would not hesitate to go back to Levithan if I need to cut some fat again or am at a point where I'd rather have the calm aggression (oxymoron?) instead of the rage.
 
free samples of both were available, not sure if they still are though. perhaps ask a rep if they are still available, well if u are willing to wait a little. i really like both, but for your goals i would say go with the RPM because its really the best of both worlds imo.
 
I'm not huge into supps like many people here so I pick and choose very carefully what I'm going to take.

dude, your lucky, spend that extra $$ on some food or something haha. i think i am just addicted to downing hand fulls of multi colored pills. oh well i dont think im the only supp whore around here:fool2:
 
samples of Leviathan are still available!

I love them both- I am down to my last 3 Leviathon- we made 560,000 RPM this weekend, so I don't think I am going to run out any time soon- I should have gotten a pic- it was literally a mountain of red metallic capsules!!!!
 
I love them both- I am down to my last 3 Leviathon- we made 560,000 RPM this weekend, so I don't think I am going to run out any time soon- I should have gotten a pic- it was literally a mountain of red metallic capsules!!!!


is it bad that made me drool..hahaha...cant wait for those purples D, glad you guys are releasing them sooner then expected!..congrats bro
 
I am not trying to hijack this thread as I have not tried either product, but because I have burned out my adrenals and am interested in Reset AD and PAL reps are present in this thread.................I want to try Reset AD, but am hesitant because of the chance that Pregnenolone will convert to Progesterone. Is there a positive to increasing progesterone or is the desired effect of the Pregnenolone arrived at through active metabolism of that molecule itself or is there hope that it will convert to androstenedione which is the other possibility. Again, any one or two responses will suffice, and I will be trying leviathan very soon and will come back and post thoughts then.
 
I am not trying to hijack this thread as I have not tried either product, but because I have burned out my adrenals and am interested in Reset AD and PAL reps are present in this thread.................I want to try Reset AD, but am hesitant because of the chance that Pregnenolone will convert to Progesterone. Is there a positive to increasing progesterone or is the desired effect of the Pregnenolone arrived at through active metabolism of that molecule itself or is there hope that it will convert to androstenedione which is the other possibility. Again, any one or two responses will suffice, and I will be trying leviathan very soon and will come back and post thoughts then.

the question of pregnenolone conversion was asked before...I remember dave reponded..

Pregnenolone is the ultimate balancing hormone.

If your body is deficient in progesterone, yes, the pregnenolone will convert somewhat to cover this defecit and balance your levels. Prenenolone will not convert to anything unless your body needs it. Its not going to raise estrogen levels or have any negative effect on test levels.

good question though.
 
I think john123 is referring to the last beta run of our new anabolic. The end product is almost finished following a little more feedback on this final batch of betas. End result color has yet to be determined. I am petitioning for glow in the dark.
 
Hasn't even been released, but go ahead and consider it a best-seller. I have absolutely NO doubts it will be HUGE
 
All I know is that the thermic effect of 5 RPM tabs makes me sweat through my shirt regardless of the intensity of my workout.

Good ****.
 
There is.... and a little searching will find the name it's being referred to as currently.
I don't think it's been officially released yet. I'll have to let Dirk comment on that.
 
I think john123 is referring to the last beta run of our new anabolic. The end product is almost finished following a little more feedback on this final batch of betas. End result color has yet to be determined. I am petitioning for glow in the dark.

I vote for hot pink. Nothing is more manly than hot pink. It's what I wear when I workout all the time and there are always people checking out my muscles and pointing at me. I know what they're thinking..."That is one manly man!!"
 
I can't wait to try it. Any samples left over for me Dirk??????? BTW- I think a Jet Black pill, with the product name in Red woudl be fricken ausome!
 
I haven't bought anything yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get both of them....They are both getting great reviews and they both provide benefits that I am looking for.
 
I will tell you that no matter which one you choose, you won't be dissappointed. I'm not huge into supps like many people here so I pick and choose very carefully what I'm going to take. Besides the basic protein, multi, fish, BCAA, etc. they only 2 I've done are Leviathan and RPM. I'll be honest on what I felt (same diet during both)

Leviathan:
Smoother energy, calmer more consistent friendlier energy
Felt somewhat hot a lot of the time throughout the day
Helped me lean out and retained muscle gains
I did not lose any weight while on it but I feel that I did lean out, probably gains in muscle what I lost in fat (3-4lbs in 2 months I'd say)

RPM:
More aggressive energy, sometime almost angry irritated engery
Felt very hot about 1-3 hours after taking it but not so much during the rest of hte day - sweat like crazy during the workout.
I feel very sore after lifting now b/c I really push it when lifting.
I'm 3 weeks into it so it's hard to say the final result but so far have made some strength gains in the gym but body weight has not really changed. Maybe 1 lb in 3 weeks.

Bottom Line: You can't go wrong with either one. If I had to pick just one right now I'd go with RPM b/c I currently like the aggressive nature of it, but I would not hesitate to go back to Levithan if I need to cut some fat again or am at a point where I'd rather have the calm aggression (oxymoron?) instead of the rage.


great review here, very solid, i'm sold, Leviathan it is next order around, currently using rpm now and i must say it's the business, awesome results,

i've always wondered how Leviathan compared to it until now that is

Applied Nutriceuticals and Palo Alto Labs are definitley establishing themselves as innovative companies in this tough tough business of supplementation.

:thumbsup:
 
great review here, very solid, i'm sold, Leviathan it is next order around, currently using rpm now and i must say it's the business, awesome results,

i've always wondered how Leviathan compared to it until now that is

Applied Nutriceuticals and Palo Alto Labs are definitley establishing themselves as innovative companies in this tough tough business of supplementation.

:thumbsup:

Thank you very much for the kind words and support, it truly does mean alot my friend, and i am more then sure AN feels the exact same way.
 
great review here, very solid, i'm sold, Leviathan it is next order around, currently using rpm now and i must say it's the business, awesome results,

i've always wondered how Leviathan compared to it until now that is

Applied Nutriceuticals and Palo Alto Labs are definitley establishing themselves as innovative companies in this tough tough business of supplementation.

:thumbsup:

lol i think i were to ever decide with a limited budget id go bonkers o.o. Ive tried leviathan. Awesome leaning effect. I went off it cause i started seeing some weight lost. My goals were a clean bulk. Ill save the rest of the bottle for another day. as for RPM, it too is an awesome product. haha tough dilemia to pick between the two. it just depends on your goals :P
 
lol i think i were to ever decide with a limited budget id go bonkers o.o. Ive tried leviathan. Awesome leaning effect. I went off it cause i started seeing some weight lost. My goals were a clean bulk. Ill save the rest of the bottle for another day. as for RPM, it too is an awesome product. haha tough dilemia to pick between the two. it just depends on your goals :P

I take them both....
 
Question for those of you who take both:

How do you dose them? I take RPM now and LOVE it. But i'm interested in losing some BF and wanted something that would help lean me down a bit. I've read nothing but good things about Leviathan, but am unsure on how to dose it while taking RPM.

thanks in advance.
 
I would probably cut both your doses in half, try that and see how it works for you. The key is finding YOUR sweet spot. What works for me may not work for you. That is one good stack though!
 
great review here, very solid, i'm sold, Leviathan it is next order around, currently using rpm now and i must say it's the business, awesome results,

i've always wondered how Leviathan compared to it until now that is

Applied Nutriceuticals and Palo Alto Labs are definitley establishing themselves as innovative companies in this tough tough business of supplementation.

:thumbsup:

If you want to try something else supercool, order some Reset ad. Just be careful, and the first day lower your dosage of RPM and other stims :) you'll be amazed at the difference it makes in any stims you are already taking
 
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