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Old 07-27-2007, 12:34 PM   #1
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Multi-vitamin dilemma

I've been thinking about this the past few days and I'm gonna put it out here and see what the rest of you think. On the surface you pick up a multi-vitamin (like AST Multipro 32X) and turn the bottle, see the long list of ingredients and throw it into the basket...like me.

Here's where I am confused:

In a multivitamin there are SEVERAL different ingredients that conflict with each other. When I think about it, I wonder if all the ingredients are actually being absorbed and taken in or if I am only getting some of it.


Here's an example:


Classic case: Zinc + Calcium. There is both zinc AND calcium in my multivitamin. The body competes again the 2 ingredients and prioritizes calcium over zinc. Does that mean that my zinc in my multivitamin never gets absorbed ?

Another issue is Vitamin A + Vitamin D. These are also 2 vitamins that the body competes for when both are introduced simultaneously. So what happens to Vitamin D since the body takes Vitamin A first ?


The only thing that I can think of is the supplement companies lists all the competitive ingredients and seperates them into layers with time-released enteric coating that VERY CAREFULLY releases each ingredient through the pH interaction thus using a time controlled distribution of these 'conflicting ingredients'.


Anyone know ?
 
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wow!! you know your board when you start analizing your multivitamin bottle...
 



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Old 07-27-2007, 12:40 PM   #3
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wow!! you know your board when you start analizing your multivitamin bottle...

Yuh.
 
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:50 PM   #5
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How much did you say you weighed ? I thought I remember you saying you weighed 189 or something, but you look like you'd be atleast 210 ?
 
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How much did you say you weighed ? I thought I remember you saying you weighed 189 or something, but you look like you'd be atleast 210 ?
yea im 5'11 190ish......
 



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Old 07-27-2007, 12:55 PM   #7
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Hm, so no one knows about the multivitamin conflicting ingredients ?
 
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Jesus Reaper, you change your avi and sig more than anyone I've seen... I thought the DDT one was genius, but you may have outdone yourself with this pseudo-Arnold quote! Funny stuff man.

As for the multi-v, good question. I really don't know, but I'm going to keep an eye on the other responses to see what you get.
 



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Old 07-27-2007, 12:57 PM   #9
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Jesus Reaper, you change your avi and sig more than anyone I've seen... I thought the DDT one was genius, but you may have outdone yourself with this pseudo-Arnold quote! Funny stuff man.

As for the multi-v, good question. I really don't know, but I'm going to keep an eye on the other responses to see what you get.
Glad you like it. Hopefully I'm wrong about the multi, b/c I'd hate to go buy all these ingredients seperately and take them seperately.
 
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I take a multi and I also eat a pretty balanced diet. I figure the multi is just for what I miss eating. I also take a variety of other supps.
 
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Honestly, this is not what you're looking for but, I think you're splitting hairs at this point. Assuming you've got a quality diet, I wouldn't be worried about not getting all of each mineral/vitamin if they are in competition with eachother.

You should be getting most of your vitamins from the foods you eat already. The multi will act to fill any gaps along the way and provide those peripheral minerals (none of the ones you've mentioned so far) that you might not get on a day to day basis.

I'm curious as to what the answer is as well, but I'm more curious as to how much from the vitamin gets used by your body anyways, provided your diet is solid.
 
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I have a few issues with multi-v's in your original question along with just how much you get regardless...Along with takingh in 10x the rec amount in a lot of those. A recent article stated that they found many of those multi's not to contain what they said they did.
 



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Ok, I'm not sure where the whole 'you should get your vitamins from your food' comes from.... that was not really the question and that is not really what I was getting either.

It was about getting in your body what is actually in the vitamins. Thanks Jay for bringing up that other issue.
 
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I think about this a lot myself (just about anytime I take one), if someone has an answer that would be sweet.
 
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