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Old 07-25-2007, 12:06 PM   #1
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Arrow Piracetam - Dosing? Choline needed?

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I'm going to buy some piracetam, I think.. but I can't find the dosing for this. What's the accepted wisdom or your experience with numbers on this?


And choline citrate.. I need to stack this, I believe.. but how much of it is required?


AND will the addition of sulbutiamine and/or pea+hordenine caps be a nice stack for nootropic nirvana?
 
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3g piracetam

A choline source, lecithin, Alpha gpc, choline citrate, etc.. 200-500mg be sufficient i'm guessin.

Subultiamine is good anxiety-reducer/endurance enhancer, me 500-1g. Like it pre-workout, other times too. Think I'll take 500mg now w/ some Picamilon

Haven't done the PEA/hordinine yet just ordered some from Nutra but heard good stuff about it.
 
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:54 PM   #3
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thanks mate
 
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More is always better ^^^^^^ Going up.
 
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let us know how the piracetam goes for you. I cant tell much difference. Carefull with the choline as it can make you smell and if your eating enough eggs you get plenty from that.
I like the sublutiamine though.
 
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Piracetam
Sulbutiamine
pea+hordenine

Do they need a build up phase or can they be taken on the day... ie do I need to take 'it' everyday or just when I fancy? It would be nice if I could take one supp on one day and another supp the next day to see which I like.

Thanks!
 
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thanks for the fish heads up
 
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I use 2-3g piracetam plus 2-3g choline. I've never noticed a "smell". However, I have heard that Sulbutiamine can cause a foul odor. Hope it works out for ya. It's helped me immensely.
 
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does it help the day it is taken?
 
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From what I remember, yes. But it took a little while to figure out the dose(s) that worked best for me.
 
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Dose it every 4 hours. Don't take it before bed as it can effect CNs.4 grams seems to be about right. I might do a log on Piracetam.
 
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If you want to feel the full effects of piracetam, I would absolutely recommend a choline source. Lecithin is like the worst choline source by the way. CC is good, but Alpha GPC is better.
 
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Originally Posted by GO_OUTSIDE!
Carefull with the choline as it can make you smell and if your eating enough eggs you get plenty from that.
I like the sublutiamine though.
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Originally Posted by CuriousOrange
I use 2-3g piracetam plus 2-3g choline. I've never noticed a "smell". However, I have heard that Sulbutiamine can cause a foul odor. Hope it works out for ya. It's helped me immensely.
Choline can make you smell? Like what? poop?
Sulbutiamine makes you smell too? Damn.
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Dose it every 4 hours. Don't take it before bed as it can effect CNs.4 grams seems to be about right. I might do a log on Piracetam.
This world needs a log or two on Piracetam.
 
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[quote=mattikus;1313368


This world needs a log or two on Piracetam.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know.

I did sulbutamine; although didn't do a log on it. I did it a good three months strait or more.It works very nicely on recalling information from the past and using it into use now from previous experiences.
 
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While I'm not going to be doing a log, I have been taking piracetam pretty consistently for about 9 months or so. Still works just as well, and I really have only positive things to say about it to this day. I also use a choline source daily...alternating between Alpha GPC and choline citrate.
 
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I have had good results on the following stacks (please don't try this at home, I have a high tolerance). Also, I have Deprynl, but I am afraid to use it due to false positive on a drug test. I have some Kanna on the way that I can't wait to try. Piracetam seems to potentiate whatever nootropic I take....I love it.

Stack 1
10g piracetam
150 mgs Wellbutrin
1 gPhenibut
400 mgs Bocopa
1 g Acytl-L-Carnatine
2 g Tyrosine
2 g Choline citrate

Stack 2
100 mgs Geranium
200 mgs Caffeine
1.5 g Chocamine
5 g Piracetam
1 g Aniracetam
10 mgs Hydrocortisone

Stack 3
1 g Acytl-L-Carnatine
1 g PLCAR
3 g Choline Citrate
5 g piracetam

Stack 4 (before Sleep)
400 mgs Bocopa
3 mcg melatonin
2 g phenibut
ZMA
1.5g Valerian Root

Stack 4 (sexy time!)
2 g Panax
7.5 mgs Yohimbine
500 mgs Cnidium
1.5 g Vitex
5 g Piracetam
 

Last edited by Hyde12 : 04-19-2008 at 05:40 AM. Reason: I meant 10 mgs not grams of Hydrocortisone
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AlphaGPC can give a fishy odor to both urine and sweat. I don't think you'd notice much at 500mg/day, although your girlfriend might notice if headed "down there."

Sulbutiamine gives a very strong "B-Vitamin" odor to urine.
 
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