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Old 07-25-2007, 11:04 AM   #1
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Question Icariin extract is basically concentrated Horny Goat Weed?
Looking at the NP site, their HGW is 20% icariin and their [out of stock] Icariin extract is 50%

So to get the same level of icariin one could simply take a little more than double the amount of HGW compared to the specific icariin extract?

 
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I don't know about everyone else, but Icariin (HGW) never did anything for me, even at high doses. Then RPM came around and changed my view on it. I am guessing the higher extract Icariin, coupled along with the precise ratio of other ingredients in RPM, make it the powerhouse that it is.
 


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Old 07-25-2007, 11:34 AM   #3
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20% HGW did have an effect on me, though it was fairly small and transient and lasted only 10-14 days or so. The 50% Icariin and naringin combo in RPM is much much better and the effects seem to last much longer and are far more pronounced.

I have taken many grams of the 20% and it has never come close to RPM.
 




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I'm aware or your product and Activate Xtreme, which has a 20% extract.. which sounds similar to NP's HGW. Yours is obviously uses the higher potency extract icariin. Both look like very good products with excellent ingredients.

I think my question was a bit dumb, lol, and the answer is basically: Yes, HGW 20% is a reasonable substitute for the 50% extract if dosed higher.
 
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Looking at the NP site, their HGW is 20% icariin and their [out of stock] Icariin extract is 50%

So to get the same level of icariin one could simply take a little more than double the amount of HGW compared to the specific icariin extract?
Cheap extractions make cheap products and that was the previous case with HGW in China.
 
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The people who make the higher extracts will probably be the same people who make the 20%, I would have thought.
 
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The people who make the higher extracts will probably be the same people who make the 20%, I would have thought.

China makes both 20% extracts. One is cheaper and one is more expensive but the buyer needs to specify specifically.
 
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They equal out in dollar per milligram: $1/gram of actual icariin. Buying one is the same as buying the other.
 


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A lot of good posting above- and I concur with all of it- it all comes down to extraction % when it comes to herbs- the higher the extract %, the more effective the product is for any given quality. However, this is not a cost-effective option for a lot of companies, b/c the higher the extraction %, the higher the cost for any given herb........

That being said- we have a SOLID supplier of 50% icariin, and it is not cheap, but we know that we are getting quality product, and we pass that on to our customers
 


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A lot of good posting above- and I concur with all of it- it all comes down to extraction % when it comes to herbs- the higher the extract %, the more effective the product is for any given quality. However, this is not a cost-effective option for a lot of companies, b/c the higher the extraction %, the higher the cost for any given herb........

That being said- we have a SOLID supplier of 50% icariin, and it is not cheap, but we know that we are getting quality product, and we pass that on to our customers
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What are the doesing recommendationd for the Icariin 50%, I didn;t see it on the web page.
 
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I saw a 99% icariin somewhere online, not sure if it was a us supplier though...
 
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