- 07-23-2007, 10:45 PM
- 07-24-2007, 12:43 AM
The glutamine I have has kind of a salty taste, i guess thats the best way to describe it. no bitterness. Ive never had trouble with bustin ass when i take it. It might sound weird but try taking it with a tablespoon of vegetable oil , that helps absorption. What grade is your powder? Usually i buy pharmaceutical grade
- 07-24-2007, 03:31 AM
Young man, please don't buy anymore glutamine. Michael Vick kills a dog every time someone buys glutamine, mmkay.
Glutamine will only make your wallet thinner. Use that money on some dead and tasty animals instead
07-24-2007, 10:14 AM
Doesnt glutamine help recover muscle tissues? Right now my left forearm is messed up and it hurts when i try to lift heavy things
07-24-2007, 10:15 AM
I tried to look for EAS glutamine yesterday in some store and there werent any popular name brands so i just grabbed this name brand called Precision sport supplments micronized glutamine
07-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Glutamine is bullsh-t in my opinion and even Patrick Arnold says it is worthless as well. The studies that have been done on glutamine are on patients who are HIV postive or on the brink of death due to physical trauma. In those given cases glutamine is sufficient. But normal bodybuilding and powerlifting does not create replicable trauma to the human body so I feel there is no correlation and no benefit.
I suppose if you were stranded on an island and only had glutamine and water (purified) for 4 weeks then it might come in handy, but at any rate save your money. Buy protein or dbol or something that ACTUALLY works.
07-24-2007, 10:21 AM
luckily i bought the smallest amount of powder in the store then........ so right now i take on 100% whey and multivitamins.. does creatine do any good?
07-24-2007, 10:24 AM
Preworkout: 15g Creatine monohydrate (I usually take mine a couple hours prior to working out to let it full saturate my muscles).
Postworkout: 10g glutamine + 1-2 scoops of whey protein
Your multi-vitamins, pop one FIRST thing when you wake up and pop one again before you GO TO BED. Keep your body with a good supply of nutrients around the clock.
NOTE: If you buy a good whey protein (like Optimum Nutrition or something like that) they are FORTIFIED with amino acids and nutrients....including glutamine. I usually have a couple shakes a day, plus your carbs that you eat have glutamine as well...so what's the point in taking more ? It's an overkill.
The reason why I said earlier if you on an island then it would help is b/c your carbs would be none (hence no glutamine).
07-24-2007, 11:50 AM
07-24-2007, 12:18 PM
I read some article saying that if u take 2 mutlivitimin pills or more daily u can have a big chance in getting cancer =O and thanks for giving me the information i need about not needing glutamine and thx for helping me on my homework about creatine guys : )
07-24-2007, 12:33 PM
Being outside near cars can also increase your chance of cancer due to asbestos emissions from brake pads and the carcinogens that are emitted out dat tail pipe.
Cancer and its causes/origin is a greatly controversal topic. Even if you only want to take 1 multivitamin you'll still be better off vs. none.
I cycle creatine 4 weeks on 2 weeks off. That's just me.
07-24-2007, 12:39 PM
i read the topic about taking 2 or more multivitamin daily can have a higher chance of getting cancer from this forum somewhere.. forgot where i read it off from
07-24-2007, 01:20 PM
If you just train on weights for no more than 1hr a day, you wont need the glutamine. Its mainly used if you eat almost no calories while youre working out so your body doesnt use your muscle cells for energy!
07-24-2007, 01:21 PM
When I did take L-glutamine for the first time it gave me straight up runny, watery diarreha...so yeah that's probably common. I don't know if that is the body's way of saying "I don't need any" or what, but yeah.
07-24-2007, 01:26 PM
07-24-2007, 02:01 PM
07-24-2007, 02:50 PM
Glutamine has it's place. When taken in shakes or meals etc. I agree I noticed almost nil from it if anything im with reaper on the pooping part. Although I didn't give up on it and have just altered the way I take it because their can be a compitition for absorbtion when taken with food/parotein shakes.
I take about 10~20gr a day thru 4 doses.
1.) What I do is take 5gr with water 1st thing in the morning wait about 20~30min to eat. Usually cooking time.
2.) 5gr with water 30min before my workout which is usually an empty stomach.
3.) I mix some with my Excell and drink during my workout and finish it about 10minutes before Im done with my workout
4.) I take 5gr with water abuot 20minutes before my before bed meal.
I maintained alot more muscle mass (maybe 7lbs) while cutting over 12 weeks in 06' vs. 05' (same principles/diet/training/cardio)
When bulking I can't really credit anything to added Glutamine supplementation, maybe in a P.C.T. from a bulk cycle but thats all.
To answer the OP question, yes it has a bitter/salty taste, but nothing that lingers. Theres ALOT worst tasteing powders out there
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07-24-2007, 03:15 PM
If you take too much glutamine it shouldn't be surprising to feel a queeziness in your stomach. Not only is glutamine the most abundant amino acid in your body when it comes to the musculoskeltal system however, it helps to preserve and protect the stomach lining.
07-24-2007, 03:50 PM
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07-24-2007, 04:13 PM
And along those lines, does a 14 year old need any supplements at all besides protein and multi-vitamin? Even creatine may not be necessary at that age. Although I don't know if it would hurt anything either. Thoughts?
07-25-2007, 08:02 AM
07-25-2007, 11:20 AM
I guess I'll just stick to my multivitamins, and the on 100% whey then... now I need to finish my gllutamine powder and today I just ate cereal for my breakfast. 30 mins later I had a big cramp and had to take a big watery dump. Yesterday i took my multivitamin pill 30 min before my glutamine powder and during the night i went to piss... and one thing that was strange was that my pee was green -__- any1 kno why my urine would turn green?
07-25-2007, 11:44 AM
Modern Breakfast Cereals
Modern breakfast cereals are made by a process called extrusion. The grains are mixed with water to make a slurry and then forced out a tiny hole at very high temperatures and pressures. The shape of the hole determines whether the final product will be a flake, a little O, a puffed grain or a shredded grain. Extrusion represents extreme ‘cruelty’ to our grains.
Two unpublished animal studies indicate that extruded grains are toxic, particularly to the nervous system. One study, found in the fi les of a cereal company he worked for and described by Paul Stitt in his book Fighting the Food Giants, was based on four sets of rats being given special diets. One group received plain whole wheat, water, vitamins and minerals. Another group received puffed wheat, water and the same nutrient solution. A third set was given water, white sugar and the chemical nutrients, and a fourth given nothing but water and sugar. The rats that received the whole wheat lived over a year on the diet. The rats who got nothing but water, sugar and vitamins lived for about eight weeks, and the animals on a white sugar and water diet lived for a month. But the company’s own laboratory study showed that rats given vitamins, water and all the puffed wheat they wanted died in two weeks. It wasn’t a matter of the rats dying of malnutrition; results like these suggested that there was something actually toxic about the puffed wheat itself. Proteins are very similar to certain toxins in molecular structure, and the puffing process of putting the grain under 1500 pounds per square inch of pressure and then releasing it, may produce chemical changes which turn a nutritious grain into a poisonous substance.
The other study was performed in 1960 by researchers at Ann Arbor University. Eighteen rats were divided into three groups. One group received cornflakes and water; a second group was given the cardboard box that the cornflakes came in and water; and the control group received rat chow and water. The rats in the control group remained in good health throughout the experiment. The rats receiving the box became lethargic and eventually died of malnutrition. But the rats receiving cornflakes and water died before the rats given the box – the last cornflake rat died on the day the first box rat died. Before death the cornflake rats developed schizophrenic behaviour, threw fits, bit each other and finally went into convulsions. Autopsy revealed dysfunction of the pancreas, liver and kidneys, and degeneration of the nerves in the spine – all signs of ‘insulin shock’. The startling conclusion of this study is that there is more nourishment in the box that cold breakfast cereals come in than in the cereals themselves.
Scientists have looked at the effects of extrusion on the proteins in grains and found extrusion to disrupt and distort the precisely folded proteins in our grains, rendering them toxic, particularly to the nervous system. Millions of children begin their day with a bowl of extruded breakfast cereal. Do the toxic protein fragments in these cereals explain why so many of our children cannot concentrate at school?
Breakfast cereals purchased in a health food store are no better than those purchased at the grocery store. They may not contain sugar or artificial colourings, but these cereals are made by the same process, and often in the same factories as the cereals sold at the supermarket. Often these cereals are made with organic grains. Organic grains contain more protein than non-organic grains ... which means that these health food store cereals probably contain more toxic protein fragments than supermarket cereals.
Source: Be Kind to Your Grains and Your Grains Will Be Kind to You! By Sally Fallon
07-25-2007, 12:34 PM
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07-29-2007, 05:04 PM
No offense,but at 14 I don't think you should even be posting on this board,maybe reading,and defenitely not doing anything you read here either...14 is too young friend,eat alot and work out alot and drink alot of water,at 14 you don't even need a multi...maybe some Flinstone chewables,but seriously 14 is too young,14 you could still stunt your growth and screw yourself up in a variable of ways....just eat and workout....at 14 your metabolism is so high you probably won't make any noticable gains anyhow...I can't say I'd even reccomend creatine at 14....little hercules had his share of BCAA's,Amino's,and protien and a tighltly sorted diet,and of course not telling what kinda stuff his dad was bumping him with daily....and he was a pretty healthy kid to say the least,besides that crap his dad gave him,although you really don't hear anything about that kid anymore....wonder if he's a fat butterball eatin' krispy kremes all day,lol
07-29-2007, 05:12 PM
Did that little hercules' dad pump him full of anadrol or something ? I know that kid wasn't 100% natural.
07-29-2007, 05:14 PM
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07-29-2007, 08:21 PM
i like to take anywhere from 20g upwards of glutamine peptides or 40g of free form l-glutamine (if i buy it in bulk) during cutting cycles to help aid in recovery and muscle loss. i do believe in higher doses for glutamine to see any affects as well. tamper with the dosage and find about whats right for you.
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