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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    Risking multi-million dollar careers and records by 'telling the truth' when just about all professional sports is loaded with juicers of one type or another is kind of suicidal.
    But he had no risk. It wasn't a banned substance when he took it. Just like admitting to taking GHB in the early 90s woudlnt be an issue even if admitting to taking it yesterday would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    But he had no risk. It wasn't a banned substance when he took it. Just like admitting to taking GHB in the early 90s woudlnt be an issue even if admitting to taking it yesterday would be.
    Sure there was a risk, or else they would have talked about Steroid use in MLB openly. In addition, steriods are illegal in the US
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    Well done Patrick. I applaud your demeanor as well as your candor regarding the 'cheating' question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Sure there was a risk, or else they would have talked about Steroid use in MLB openly. In addition, steriods are illegal in the US
    The chemical structure of the substance in "Clear" was not in any FDA schedule nor referenced in any law book, thereby it was not illegal. I would think it would have to be called a designer supplement with steroid effects.... until the definition of steroid was modified to include it.
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    awesome interview!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    The chemical structure of the substance in "Clear" was not in any FDA schedule nor referenced in any law book, thereby it was not illegal. I would think it would have to be called a designer supplement with steroid effects.... until the definition of steroid was modified to include it.
    Hmmmm. Wonder why PA went to prison for it then????
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    Awesome. Patrick, I din't know you are from Illinois. I'm on the southside Chicago in the suburbs. No one was made out to be bad or point fingers i like this. Congrtas.
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    Nice interview, very well stated. And PA was cute as always
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Hmmmm. Wonder why PA went to prison for it then????
    probably because it was specifically designed to not be detectable by conventional tests. Not sure really, could also be all sorts of things down to labeling even... they can always find something you violated if they try hard enough

    Just to add, for instanct Absinthe the liquor is illegal to manufacture or sell inside the US, however as bizarre as it sounds its not illegal to possess... Its all about how the laws are written
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    Heard reference to the HBO interview on ESPN last night in passing, dropping names Partrick Arnold, Barry Bonds, Bob Costas.....didn't see the HBO interview.
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    Good stuff PA, and yea ESPN is blowing you up. Props to you for telling it how it is. Im a huge Barry Bonds fan also if that makes it more special...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Here is the intro from my upload

    I need to mess with the compressions settings...
    I will mess with the compression later

    Part 1 of 3
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    They just mentioned this on Fox News! It was a quick snippet, but it named PA as the chemist behind the scenes. You're officially famous/infamous PA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    They just mentioned this on Fox News! It was a quick snippet, but it named PA as the chemist behind the scenes. You're officially famous/infamous PA!
    I like what BC said. "Rogue Chemist"
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I like what BC said. "Rogue Chemist"
    Yeah, I caught that too...kind of funny...they should have flashed PA's mad scientist pic when he said that!

    Fox just said, "Patrick Arnold is the man behind the infamous form of undetectable steroids known as The Clear..."

    The report then went on and rehashed what PA said about Bonds and Sheffield being on The Program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I will mess with the compression later

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    I cant explain it... this flax seed oil is amazing. Im losing bodyfat, my bench went up 150 pds, i put on 30 pds of muscle and no longer feel tired after working out. LOL
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    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...25/ai_75434929

    "The balls I used to line off the wall are lining out of the park. I can't tell you why," says Bonds, humbled by his power streak. "Call God. Ask him. It's like, `Wow, I can't figure it out.' So I stop trying and keep swinging."
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    They sure don't make flax seed oil like they used to
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    The chemical structure of the substance in "Clear" was not in any FDA schedule nor referenced in any law book, thereby it was not illegal. I would think it would have to be called a designer supplement with steroid effects.... until the definition of steroid was modified to include it.

    the public, hell even alot of federal prosecutors, don't understand (or don't WANT to understand) such subtle legal nuances

    i can't blame the guy for denying
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Hmmmm. Wonder why PA went to prison for it then????
    see above post
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    probably because it was specifically designed to not be detectable by conventional tests. Not sure really, could also be all sorts of things down to labeling even... they can always find something you violated if they try hard enough

    Just to add, for instanct Absinthe the liquor is illegal to manufacture or sell inside the US, however as bizarre as it sounds its not illegal to possess... Its all about how the laws are written
    actually i was forced to plea guilty to conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids, despite the fact that rick collins clearly illustrated to the feds that this did not fall under the definition

    i did not have the funds, nor was i stupid enough, to try to fight the feds on a legal definition. i took my plea bargain sentence and lived with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Good stuff PA, and yea ESPN is blowing you up. Props to you for telling it how it is. Im a huge Barry Bonds fan also if that makes it more special...lol

    hey i am a bonds fan too

    i am also a steroid fan

    the two don't have to be mutually exclusive!!
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    Interesting interview to say the least, PA!

    is that you and Jared at the bar?

    for your candidness!
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    Interesting interview to say the least, PA!

    is that you and Jared at the bar?

    for your candidness!


    thanks, yep thats jared
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    hey i am a bonds fan too

    i am also a steroid fan

    the two don't have to be mutually exclusive!!
    Classy interview PA!

    Costas plugged you nicely at the end!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Classy interview PA!

    Costas plugged you nicely at the end!
    LOL yeah with PA sporting the Ergo polo....
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    This goes out to all the haters out there


    Patrick should get a pat on the back and have long hours of fame.Pa saved baseball in many ways,after the baseball strike nobody was interested in baseball or payed attention until the homerun race between Sosa and McGwire and I belived that McGwire guy took andro.But it's just like chris rock said last night for it to be cheating you have to break a rule and there were no rules at the time.So dont blame anybody except for baseball for not catching up in the times if they didnt want players to use the juice then they should have had drug testing policies in place just like every employer in america does.
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    Now PA is big news on Tony Rome show on ESPN. Watcging it now. Garry Sheffield name is being brought up, hahahaha.

    Its all about da "clear." PA: "I created this drug, its an anabolic steroid."
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    nicely done interview.

    Did everything come across as you wanted it to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synicus View Post
    Now PA is big news on Tony Rome show on ESPN. Watcging it now. Garry Sheffield name is being brought up, hahahaha.

    Its all about da "clear." PA: "I created this drug, its an anabolic steroid."
    Tony Rome????

    Do you mean Jim Rome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synicus View Post
    Now PA is big news on Tony Rome show on ESPN. Watcging it now. Garry Sheffield name is being brought up, hahahaha.

    Its all about da "clear." PA: "I created this drug, its an anabolic steroid."
    Watch to see how soon Gary pulls the race card on Patrick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman82 View Post
    Patrick should get a pat on the back and have long hours of fame.Pa saved baseball in many ways,after the baseball strike nobody was interested in baseball or payed attention until the homerun race between Sosa and McGwire and I belived that McGwire guy took andro.But it's just like chris rock said last night for it to be cheating you have to break a rule and there were no rules at the time.So dont blame anybody except for baseball for not catching up in the times if they didnt want players to use the juice then they should have had drug testing policies in place just like every employer in america does.
    Patrick!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    Watch to see how soon Gary pulls the race card on Patrick.
    LOL

    Sheffield said it CAN'T be a steroid lest ya pin it in the butt.

    Rome also seemed to show more respect to PA, as being legit/honest, than to Bonds/Sheffield for being liars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synicus View Post
    LOL

    Sheffield said it CAN'T be a steroid lest ya pin it in the butt.

    Rome also seemed to show more respect to PA, as being legit/honest, than to Bonds/Sheffield for being liars.
    Wonder what he has to say on his show???

    Anywho, Rome is a big Bonds basher....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synicus View Post
    LOL

    Sheffield said it CAN'T be a steroid lest ya pin it in the butt.

    Rome also seemed to show more respect to PA, as being legit/honest, than to Bonds/Sheffield for being liars.
    I want Bonds to go on Rome is Burning and lay the smack down ala 'Chris' Everett

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Tony Rome????
    Mmmm...I love his ribs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I want Bonds to go on Rome is Burning and lay the smack down ala 'Chris' Everett

    LOL, I don't even have to watch that one...that was funny ****!

    Anyway, just wondering how many pitchers have been outed as having been on steroids? Their approach would likely be a little different, but it's still another possibility that I don't think many talk about...
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    Sorry to double post, but there is a special on ESPN right now about Bonds!
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    LOL, I don't even have to watch that one...that was funny ****!

    Anyway, just wondering how many pitchers have been outed as having been on steroids? Their approach would likely be a little different, but it's still another possibility that I don't think many talk about...
    I think pitchers would need it more, and a lil Cissus...
  

  
 

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