Have a look at my NP shopping cart.

[pistonpump]

1 x Icariin 50% powder
1 x Sulbutiamine Caps
5 x Clear Edge
1 x Yohimbine Caps
1 x NO Xplode
1 x RPM
1 x TEA-GCG™ (Green Tea Caps)
5 x DiCreatine Malate
1 x Yellow Gold
1 x L-Glutamine Powder
1 x Taurine Powder
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch)
1 x 6-OXO Extreme
1 x ON Serious Mass
1 x Syntha-6
1 x ON 100% Casein
1 x Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator
1 x Psyllium Caps
1 x ON 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard
1 x Opti-Men
1 x Leviathan
1 x Advanced post cycle therapy
2 x Formestane Powder
1 x PENETRATE 8oz
1 x Alpha Drive XL
1 x 11-oxo
2 x Bulk Super Cissus RX
1 x Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps
1 x Xtend
1 x Jet Fuel
1 x Shred-XS
2 x DHEA (50 mg)

Total: 766.38


Now there is no way i can afford all of this. And i dont know exactly why i posted this or what i would like from you guys but hey, open discussion.

[Reem]

- Spread out your expenses and don't buy all things at once, or were you planning on using everything at the same time?

- Maybe use less supplements and rely more on food and your own mind (I know this sounds silly in a supplement forum but judging from your list you could do with a few less)

- Get a job that pays more

[pistonpump]

this is more of a wish list and there is no way i would stack all these. Ill probably make my next order around $150-200 total so i gotta pick what i will need.

But...
Ive tried BCAA's but never xtend
Ive tried all of those P powders
tried samples of RPM and Leviathan
Im a regular ON optimen taker
I take cissus just never supercissus
I like Kwik Karb Post w/o
I liked Camphbolic so the green tea caps look cheap and nice.

And i guess pretty much everything else would be new to me....

job....eh. i got alot of medical bills and other misc. bills man. I should use the money to pay them first but hey, im all about feeling good and living only once

[MrTotality]

1 x Icariin 50% powder
1 x Sulbutiamine Caps
5 x Clear Edge
1 x Yohimbine Caps
1 x NO Xplode
1 x RPM
1 x TEA-GCG™ (Green Tea Caps)
5 x DiCreatine Malate
1 x Yellow Gold
1 x L-Glutamine Powder
1 x Taurine Powder
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch)
1 x 6-OXO Extreme
1 x ON Serious Mass
1 x Syntha-6
1 x ON 100% Casein
1 x Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator
1 x Psyllium Caps
1 x ON 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard
1 x Opti-Men
1 x Leviathan
1 x Advanced post cycle therapy
2 x Formestane Powder
1 x PENETRATE 8oz
1 x Alpha Drive XL
1 x 11-oxo
2 x Bulk Super Cissus RX
1 x Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps
1 x Xtend
1 x Jet Fuel
1 x Shred-XS
2 x DHEA (50 mg)

Total: 766.38


Now there is no way i can afford all of this. And i dont know exactly why i posted this or what i would like from you guys but hey, open discussion.

thats a lot of stuff man.

[Reem]

Hehe, I know what you mean.

Sometimes there are so many products you'd like to try or proven ones you want to add to your standard staple that it gets difficult to manage the supplement budget.

Feels like a kid in a toy store....only this time your mom isn't around to tell you you just ain't getting everything - end of discussion-

[prld2gr8ns]

Baby steps man... try something new here, something new there. Keeps thing interesting that way.

[PumpingIron]

PP, a few things I've noticed.

1 x Icariin 50% powder -Ehhh
1 x Sulbutiamine Caps -Ehhh
5 x Clear Edge -Ehhh
1 x Yohimbine Caps -Ehhh
1 x NO Xplode -Big brands suck
1 x RPM -Definitely worth a shot
1 x TEA-GCG™ (Green Tea Caps) -Always a good idea
5 x DiCreatine Malate -Ehhh
1 x Yellow Gold -Definately great stuff.
1 x L-Glutamine Powder -Don't do it!!!
1 x Taurine Powder -Only if you're going to cycle soon.
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) -Use food for this.
1 x 6-OXO Extreme -PCT AID #1
1 x ON Serious Mass -Mass gainers blow
1 x Syntha-6 -??
1 x ON 100% Casein -I love this stuff
1 x Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator -What have you been doing?
1 x Psyllium Caps -Metamucil?
1 x ON 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard -Another good choice
1 x Opti-Men -Always need a multi
1 x Leviathan -Fat buner # 1
1 x Advanced post cycle therapy -PCT AID #2
2 x Formestane Powder -PCT AID #3
1 x PENETRATE 8oz
1 x Alpha Drive XL -It is cheap.
1 x 11-oxo -Ehh
2 x Bulk Super Cissus RX -I really haven't made up my mind on Cissus.
1 x Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps -Ehhh
1 x Xtend -Add 5 bucks and get the WPI Substance combo.
1 x Jet Fuel -Fat Burner #2
1 x Shred-XS -Why do you want a diuretic
2 x DHEA (50 mg) -You're to young to need this

[heebs10]

were all aloud to dream

[bLacKjAck.]

What are your goals bro?? That would really help as far as slimming down that list for ya.

[Big BAMA]

I hate to think what my wish list would be.

[peece]

PP, a few things I've noticed.

1 x Icariin 50% powder -Ehhh
1 x Sulbutiamine Caps -Ehhh
5 x Clear Edge -Ehhh
1 x Yohimbine Caps -Ehhh
1 x NO Xplode -Big brands suck
1 x RPM -Definitely worth a shot
1 x TEA-GCG™ (Green Tea Caps) -Always a good idea
5 x DiCreatine Malate -Ehhh
1 x Yellow Gold -Definately great stuff.
1 x L-Glutamine Powder -Don't do it!!!
1 x Taurine Powder -Only if you're going to cycle soon.
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) -Use food for this.
1 x 6-OXO Extreme -post cycle therapy AID #1
1 x ON Serious Mass -Mass gainers blow
1 x Syntha-6 -??
1 x ON 100% Casein -I love this stuff
1 x Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator -What have you been doing?
1 x Psyllium Caps -Metamucil?
1 x ON 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard -Another good choice
1 x Opti-Men -Always need a multi
1 x Leviathan -Fat buner # 1
1 x Advanced post cycle therapy -PCT AID #2
2 x Formestane Powder -PCT AID #3
1 x PENETRATE 8oz
1 x Alpha Drive XL -It is cheap.
1 x 11-oxo -Ehh
2 x Bulk Super Cissus RX -I really haven't made up my mind on Cissus.
1 x Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps -Ehhh
1 x Xtend -Add 5 bucks and get the WPI Substance combo.
1 x Jet Fuel -Fat Burner #2
1 x Shred-XS -Why do you want a diuretic
2 x DHEA (50 mg) -You're to young to need this

thanks pump

[pistonpump]

thanks pump

you taulkin ta me? (in an italian accent) j/k

PI, thanks alot. i guess i was kinda looking for and needed that kinda input. I disagree with a few of them but ill get back to you on that later, gotta clock out. catch you fellahs later.

[PumpingIron]

I don't expect everyone to supplement like me.

Let me know your thoughts, cuz I did get an idea or two from your list.

[MentalTwitch]

1 x L-Glutamine Powder -Don't do it!!!
1 x Taurine Powder -Only if you're going to cycle soon.

Why do you say no L-Glutamine?
Why only Taurine on cycle.?
I know all the stuff with Glutamine, i personally like it.
Taurine i thought helped cratine transport? I was goin to be gettin it too.

[WannaBeHulk]

id definately drop ON serious mass, syntha 6, NO xplode, and clear edge the clear edge on clearance expired in april unless they got another shipment to put on clearance (i doubt this is the case). RPM and icariin is redundant and so is yellow gold and ALA caps. this should eliminate around $200 or so.

personally, the only items i would buy on your list are xtend, yellow gold or ALA, and maybe RPM. good luck

[Distilled Water]

Why do you say no L-Glutamine?
Why only Taurine on cycle.?
I know all the stuff with Glutamine, i personally like it.
Taurine i thought helped cratine transport? I was goin to be gettin it too.

Im with you on this one. I like both of them very much.

Piston, Here some advice for you my friend. Get what you need in your next order. Then wait until 4th of july for your next one, you can probably get alot of that stuff for a lot cheaper I remember NP had a huge sale last 4th of july. I like the big sale's time to get the stuff I may not regularly get. You feelin' me??

[extremenergy3]

If you liked RPM, you'd probably like the bulk icariin.

And sytha-6 is a great anytime protein powder PLUS GREAT TASTE. But quite expensive.

[peece]

Im with you on this one. I like both of them very much.

Piston, Here some advice for you my friend. Get what you need in your next order. Then wait until 4th of july for your next one, you can probably get alot of that stuff for a lot cheaper I remember NP had a huge sale last 4th of july. I like the big sale's time to get the stuff I may not regularly get. You feelin' me??

oh yeah baby :bb2:

[PumpingIron]

Why do you say no L-Glutamine?
Why only Taurine on cycle.?
I know all the stuff with Glutamine, i personally like it.
Taurine i thought helped cratine transport? I was goin to be gettin it too.

Just my personal opinion. I don't like taking TOO many supplements. I agree that taurine is good for year round use, but I personally only use it for it's on cycle benifits.

I don't believe in Glutamine. I've tried it and I will stick with BCAAs.

[pistonpump]

PP, a few things I've noticed.

1 x Icariin 50% powder -Ehhhfigured i run a little more with the RPM
1 x Sulbutiamine Caps -Ehhhclear focus and energy guess ill cut it
5 x Clear Edge -Ehhh600 caps for 15 bucks i guess ill cut it
1 x Yohimbine Caps -Ehhhcheap n does the job
1 x NO Xplode -Big brands suckalways wanted to try to see what the fuss was about
1 x RPM -Definitely worth a shoti liked this alot with my samples
1 x TEA-GCG™ (Green Tea Caps) -Always a good ideai liked Camphbolic n this is cheap and capped also green tea has anti ox props
5 x DiCreatine Malate -Ehhhagain, cheap
1 x Yellow Gold -Definately great stuff.gotta try this, like AP right?
1 x L-Glutamine Powder -Don't do it!!!wanted to try, only 100grams
1 x Taurine Powder -Only if you're going to cycle soon.was planning on it for cycle
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) -Use food for this.i like this with post wo shake
1 x 6-OXO Extreme -post cycle therapy AID #1good pct
1 x ON Serious Mass -Mass gainers blowi went thru a bag of this before, made some crazy shakes, cheap even if it is crap it last forever
1 x Syntha-6 -??taste way to good. anytime shake. personally craving some strawberry
1 x ON 100% Casein -I love this stuffagree, i need a quality bedtime protien. i liked the choc
1 x Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator -What have you been doing?cheap and wanted to use it post cycle
1 x Psyllium Caps -Metamucil? never tried metamucil
1 x ON 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard -Another good choice I need a 10lbs bag, i never get tired of this
1 x Opti-Men -Always need a multiwas thinking of another but ive always used this one. need more
1 x Leviathan -Fat buner # 1liked the samples as well
1 x Advanced post cycle therapy -PCT AID #2curious
2 x Formestane Powder -PCT AID #3might go with eform
1 x PENETRATE 8oz
1 x Alpha Drive XL -It is cheap.like you said
1 x 11-oxo -Ehhguess ill wait to see more reviews in time
2 x Bulk Super Cissus RX -I really haven't made up my mind on Cissus.good deal going on
1 x Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps -Ehhhi guess youre right another cheap one just to try
1 x Xtend -Add 5 bucks and get the WPI Substance combo.thanks
1 x Jet Fuel -Fat Burner #2looks solid
1 x Shred-XS -Why do you want a diureticthis is a diuretic? thought it was a fatburner
2 x DHEA (50 mg) -You're to young to need this

wanted to try this on cycle real low dose. cheap.


Alot of these were cheap and i wanted to try. most of the NP capped stuff.

[pistonpump]

I don't expect everyone to supplement like me.

Let me know your thoughts, cuz I did get an idea or two from your list.

like what?

[pistonpump]

i dont intend on using all this at once, i just stock up. im still going thru alot of other supplements. im a junkie i guess. when i stopped buying drugs i moved on to supplements lol.

[PumpingIron]

Mostly the Psyllium caps. I drink 1 tablespoon of sugar free metamucil every night, but if the caps are cheaper, I will add it to my next order.

[PumpingIron]

i dont intend on using all this at once, i just stock up. im still going thru alot of other supplements. im a junkie i guess. when i stopped buying drugs i moved on to supplements lol.

I think there are quite a few of us that did this.

[bitterplacebo]

Why do you say no L-Glutamine?
Why only Taurine on cycle.?
I know all the stuff with Glutamine, i personally like it.
Taurine i thought helped cratine transport? I was goin to be gettin it too.

I heard that about Taurine also.
I also feel that glutamine does do me some good, even if it's in my head. But it would be something I can easily go on without. It is pretty cheap, though.

[EasyEJL]

Mostly the Psyllium caps. I drink 1 tablespoon of sugar free metamucil every night, but if the caps are cheaper, I will add it to my next order.

I buy the psyllium husks bulk in a local hippie store, its around $20/pound.

Am I the only one who feels like I have to say psyllium in a Sylvester the cat voice?

[chaos92287]

Am I the only one who feels like I have to say psyllium in a Sylvester the cat voice?

nope


and DAMN thats a long list of items. wish i had that kind of dough

[pistonpump]

nope


and DAMN thats a long list of items. wish i had that kind of dough

i dont

im amazed this thread got so much conversation....Ill post my final list soon enough because i expect to hit it hard in july and i need my ammo. I just have some minor body problems that ill throw out there in another thread.

How does metamucil taste? and the psyllium husks?

[EasyEJL]

i dont

im amazed this thread got so much conversation....Ill post my final list soon enough because i expect to hit it hard in july and i need my ammo. I just have some minor body problems that ill throw out there in another thread.

How does metamucil taste? and the psyllium husks?

The husks are pretty flavorless, just a little gritty. I mix them in with my protein, I use syntrax nectar which has pretty strong flavors anyhow

[PumpingIron]

The metamucil that contains sugar tastes much better but I got used to the sugar free rather quickly.

[pistonpump]

So Ive gotten it down to this right now, eliminating products out of stock and products i wont need to use within the next few months. Its still alot of dough though.

1 x 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard 10lb (need a big bag)
1 x NO Xplode (still want to try this but might hold off)
1 x RPM (definite)
1 x Yellow Gold (finally giving in)
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) (post workout carbs)
1 x 6-OXO Extreme (pct 1)
1 x 100% Casein 4lb (my slow pro)
1 x Psyllium Caps (cheap gonna try)
1 x Opti-Men (must re-up)
1 x Alpha Drive XL (cheap PCT 2)
1 x Xtend
1 x Jet Fuel (chose this over leviathan)
Total: 352.63

[PumpingIron]

I'm telling you, get the extend combo...

And...do you have a capping kit?

[peece]

So Ive gotten it down to this right now, eliminating products out of stock and products i wont need to use within the next few months. Its still alot of dough though.

1 x 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard 10lb (need a big bag)
1 x NO Xplode (still want to try this but might hold off)
1 x RPM (definite)
1 x Yellow Gold (finally giving in)
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) (post workout carbs)
1 x 6-OXO Extreme (post cycle therapy 1)
1 x 100% Casein 4lb (my slow pro)
1 x Psyllium Caps (cheap gonna try)
1 x Opti-Men (must re-up)
1 x Alpha Drive XL (cheap PCT 2)
1 x Xtend
1 x Jet Fuel (chose this over leviathan)
Total: 352.63

piston- have you used jet fuel before I tried Leviathan and really dug it

[bitterplacebo]

So Ive gotten it down to this right now, eliminating products out of stock and products i wont need to use within the next few months. Its still alot of dough though.

1 x 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard 10lb (need a big bag)
1 x NO Xplode (still want to try this but might hold off)
1 x RPM (definite)
1 x Yellow Gold (finally giving in)
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) (post workout carbs)
1 x 6-OXO Extreme (post cycle therapy 1)
1 x 100% Casein 4lb (my slow pro)
1 x Psyllium Caps (cheap gonna try)
1 x Opti-Men (must re-up)
1 x Alpha Drive XL (cheap post cycle therapy 2)
1 x Xtend
1 x Jet Fuel (chose this over leviathan)
Total: 352.63

I would ditch the NO Xplode. I tried it, and it's probably one of the better pre-workout supplements. Really, though, I consider the main active ingredients mostly as just creatine/caffeine/arginine/citrulline. And you can probably get those separately in bulk for cheaper. Personally, I think it's got a little too much caffeine in it, but I'm a sensitive person to stimulants.

RPM I like. Makes me pretty euphoric, and I've also had some abnormally aggressive workouts with it.

Just now, I tried yellow gold for the first time. Some say it's got a bad taste, but I'd call it "strong." I was still able to lick the measuring spoon directly. I kind of enjoyed the light-headed and confused feeling it gave me. I don't know if it was all in my head, but for the meal, the urge to eat was so aggressive that I think I might have gone as far as hurting somebody if they tried to take my food away. And afterwards, I'm not tired or lazy like sometimes happens, but pretty happy and energetic. Is that what it's like for anyone else?

With WMS, I only use it right when I get up in the morning before breakfast, because I go workout right after. Seemed to work well, and I have a little bit more energy.

I like Xtend. But if you want to save money you might want to get just a amino acid mix instead of NO Xplode. You could also try Purple Wraath, which has just about all the pre/during workout supplements you'd want. Aminos, citrulline, beta alanine. Without caffeine which is good for me. And the new flavoring is not as bad as before. It just has an odd aftertaste, but at least it doesn't make me gag anymore.

[Aoba]

I would ditch the NO Xplode. I tried it, and it's probably one of the better pre-workout supplements. Really, though, I consider the main active ingredients mostly as just creatine/caffeine/arginine/citrulline. And you can probably get those separately in bulk for cheaper. Personally, I think it's got a little too much caffeine in it, but I'm a sensitive person to stimulants.

RPM I like. Makes me pretty euphoric, and I've also had some abnormally aggressive workouts with it.

Just now, I tried yellow gold for the first time. Some say it's got a bad taste, but I'd call it "strong." I was still able to lick the measuring spoon directly. I kind of enjoyed the light-headed and confused feeling it gave me. I don't know if it was all in my head, but for the meal, the urge to eat was so aggressive that I think I might have gone as far as hurting somebody if they tried to take my food away. And afterwards, I'm not tired or lazy like sometimes happens, but pretty happy and energetic. Is that what it's like for anyone else?

With WMS, I only use it right when I get up in the morning before breakfast, because I go workout right after. Seemed to work well, and I have a little bit more energy.

I like Xtend. But if you want to save money you might want to get just a amino acid mix instead of NO Xplode. You could also try Purple Wraath, which has just about all the pre/during workout supplements you'd want. Aminos, citrulline, beta alanine. Without caffeine which is good for me. And the new flavoring is not as bad as before. It just has an odd aftertaste, but at least it doesn't make me gag anymore.

drop the NO-explode...i def agree. Pick up Vasoxplode instead if you really need a pre-wo blend

this is my stack im starting tomorrow

Prim ZMA
Cordygen 5x2 (im a tester for it)
Grapeseed Extract caps 100x2
Orange Triadx1
Maca Root 150g
L-glutamine as part of cut diet (mainly digestion and balancing stomach acids)

[pistonpump]

I'm telling you, get the extend combo...

And...do you have a capping kit?

yeah i have a capper and thanks for reminding me about the combo, totally forgot.

ill drop the no-xplode.

i tried leviathan but the thing is im going to probably use the fat burner towards the end of PCT so all that tribulus and stuff i think would be redundant with the alphadrive, leviathan already has great reviews and i liked it i just want to give a review of jetfuel. Plus i like liquid caps they look cool which makes me feel cool haha.

Most of this stuff im just getting ready for next cycle and pct and a few weeks after pct. Ill update later just got to work and gotta check the status for tonight.

[asianbabe]

So Ive gotten it down to this right now, eliminating products out of stock and products i wont need to use within the next few months. Its still alot of dough though.

1 x 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard 10lb (need a big bag)
1 x NO Xplode (still want to try this but might hold off)
1 x RPM (definite)
1 x Yellow Gold (finally giving in)
1 x KWICK KARB™ (Waxy Maize Starch) (post workout carbs)
1 x 6-OXO Extreme (post cycle therapy 1)
1 x 100% Casein 4lb (my slow pro)
1 x Psyllium Caps (cheap gonna try)
1 x Opti-Men (must re-up)
1 x Alpha Drive XL (cheap post cycle therapy 2)
1 x Xtend
1 x Jet Fuel (chose this over leviathan)
Total: 352.63

ON casein takes horrid! Ok so I would drop that. If your diet has enough fibre.. e.g. veggies, oatmeal, oatbran, ground flax etc, you could save on the psyllium?
If you were still short on $$ leave out the bcaas..
You could swap no-xplode for white flood.. good deal, lots of servings, works pretty well..why did you not choose leviathan! (rhetorical question, I know you already answered!)

[PumpingIron]

I love ON's casien!! Vanilla and skim milk BABY!!

[asianbabe]

Really? I bought a tub of chocolate a long time ago and that turned me off forever..

[PumpingIron]

Never had the chocolate...