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Does creatine lose its affect if i do not cycle it on and off?
Really? I thought the whole reason it needs to be cycled was kidney strain. I dont understand why it would lose its effectiveness unless theres receptors that desensitize.definately need to cycle creatine. i find the longer i stay off creatine the better the results i get when i go back on it
Very interesting, do you use creatine HSC aswell?I cycle 3 days on, 3 days off. About 20 grams split into 5 doses throughout the day and 0 on off days. There are studies that show that in a matter of weeks, the "maintenence dose" of creatine loses it's effect and the total musle creatine levels decrease.
Yes, and yes. I use ON Pre-load pre and post workout. It's about the same as Creatine HSC and I felt it worked much better than creatine alone.Very interesting, do you use creatine HSC aswell?
And have you seen a big diffrence with this method?
Cool, does it have creatine in it?Yes, and yes. I use ON Pre-load pre and post workout. It's about the same as Creatine HSC and I felt it worked much better than creatine alone.
6g of creatine monohydrate per serving. 34g of dextrose. Some other stuff too, but these are the main players.Cool, does it have creatine in it?
What does your regimen look like?
Thanks.6g of creatine monohydrate per serving. 34g of dextrose. Some other stuff too, but these are the main players.
I take 1 scoop of pre-load in my pre-workout shake, 1 scoop of pre-load in my post-workout shake and two separate 5g servings of regular creatine mono later in the day. Starting tomorrow, I will move the third serving of creatine into the 3 hour window following my morning workout and the last serving of the day will be in the early evening. It's important not to use the pre-load for all 4 servings. You don't want all that sugar later in the day, just right before and right after lifting. That means buying two types of creatine (one pure, one w/ dextrose), but they'll both last longer, so it evens out in the end.
Give it a try! Everybody is different, but I like this method a lot. Good luck. :thumbsup:
Yep, that's where I learned about it. But it says this:Thanks.
I went to some site which is were they cited those studies you mentioned, and it said 3 days on 3 days off, but what confused me was it said on the off days to use creatine HSC instead which sorta defeats the purpose of taking 3 off days, I think it was to just sell more of the product.
http://www.ast-ss.com/articles/article.asp?AID=243
I am reading alot that you only need 10grams per day of creatine, how much do you weigh and have you tried doing 10 grams per day?Yep, that's where I learned about it. But it says this:
"No creatine supplement is used for the next three days. On these “non-creatine” days, substitute DGC for Creatine HSC during workouts. "
DGC is Dextratory Glucose Crystals. Another option for this is Gatorade. Get the powder and add it to your pre and post workout shake. It has the same effect as the dextrose in the Creatine HSC or ON Pre-Load, but without the creatine.
Good luck man, I hope it works well for you!
I weigh 182.5 as of yesterday. The creatine cycling that I do essentially calls for "loading phase" type dosing on those three days, which is 20-25g. That fully loads your muscles and keeps your creatine levels at an effective level for the three days that you take no creatine. Then you load again for three days at 20-25g per day. IMO 10g per day for three days and then no creatine for 3 days would not be effective. I don't think that you would get enough creatine into your muscles to last 3 days without.I am reading alot that you only need 10grams per day of creatine, how much do you weigh and have you tried doing 10 grams per day?
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to EctoPower again.I weigh 182.5 as of yesterday. The creatine cycling that I do essentially calls for "loading phase" type dosing on those three days, which is 20-25g. That fully loads your muscles and keeps your creatine levels at an effective level for the three days that you take no creatine. Then you load again for three days at 20-25g per day. IMO 10g per day for three days and then no creatine for 3 days would not be effective. I don't think that you would get enough creatine into your muscles to last 3 days without.
I'm no expert on this stuff, but I follow the method exactly as described on ast-ss.com and it has worked better for me than any other creatine strategy I've found. The only way you'll know if it works for you is if you try it. :thumbsup:
Also, people saying you only need 10g per day are probably not cycling their creatine. If you just took 10g of creatine mono per day, everyday, it would probably work well for awhile. But eventually your creatine stores will drop off and not get replenished to an effective level and you'll have a noticeable decrease in strength.
I love creatine too, well its a love hate relationship, and it involves my toilet somewhere in the picture.i love creatine
:goodpost:I personally cycle pretty much everything except protein, multi, and fish oils. I like to give my body breaks from everything to 1) reduce my dependency and tolenance to it and 2) keep my system to constantly being flooded for health reason of my kidneys/liver. But that's just me.
I'm also not a huge fan of the loading phase of 20-30g of creatine mono b/c most of it ends up in the toilet for me.
I typically go:
1 week at 10-15g - split 3 times a day
1-3 months at 5-7g split 2 times a day
1-2 months off
That seems to work for me and keeps the gains coming. I hate that first 2 weeks off creatine though, when you lose that pump and feel like a pansy...lol
whoah.. I love Ninjas!!!I personally cycle pretty much everything except protein, multi, and fish oils. I like to give my body breaks from everything to 1) reduce my dependency and tolenance to it and 2) keep my system to constantly being flooded for health reason of my kidneys/liver. But that's just me.
I'm also not a huge fan of the loading phase of 20-30g of creatine mono b/c most of it ends up in the toilet for me.
I typically go:
1 week at 10-15g - split 3 times a day
1-3 months at 5-7g split 2 times a day
1-2 months off
That seems to work for me and keeps the gains coming. I hate that first 2 weeks off creatine though, when you lose that pump and feel like a pansy...lol
it's because we are mammals and have the ability to remain stealthy but also pork a ton of women while wailing on guitars in our dojos. If fact I'm going to go fingerpick a 80s ballad right now and not even think twice about it.whoah.. I love Ninjas!!!
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