[DieTrying]

I don't know how many of you were at the ISSNs 4th annual conference in Vegas. If you were and walked by the poster presentations you probably saw the first research conducted on Creatine Ethyl Ester.

Drs Tallon and Child out of the UK tested the marketing claim that CEE avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids, providing Cr greater absorption. The availability of free creatine was compared between creatine monohydrate, SANs CM2 Alpha and MRIs CE2. After 120 minutes of incubation in 900mL of pH 1 HCL at 37 degreesC, about 3/4 of the CEE in MRI's CE2 was available and only 11% available from CM2 Alpha, while boring old creatine monohydrate was still there standing strong at 99%.

Turns out that the marketing claims that these companies use are the exact opposite of what the product does in an acidic environment. Ever wonder why you don't get the bloat with CEE? It may be because you're not really using any creatine.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by DieTrying

I don't know how many of you were at the ISSNs 4th annual conference in Vegas. If you were and walked by the poster presentations you probably saw the first research conducted on Creatine Ethyl Ester.

Drs Tallon and Child out of the UK tested the marketing claim that CEE avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids, providing Cr greater absorption. The availability of free creatine was compared between creatine monohydrate, SANs CM2 Alpha and MRIs CE2. After 120 minutes of incubation in 900mL of pH 1 HCL at 37 degreesC, about 3/4 of the CEE in MRI's CE2 was available and only 11% available from CM2 Alpha, while boring old creatine monohydrate was still there standing strong at 99%.

Turns out that the marketing claims that these companies use are the exact opposite of what the product does in an acidic environment. Ever wonder why you don't get the bloat with CEE? It may be because you're not really using any creatine.

I never thought CEE did much anyway. I only used it once.

[bioman]

Iiiiinnteresting.


The stuff is weird for sure. Most people, self included, reported great pumps for the first week or so then..nothin'.

[TT1]

Originally Posted by bioman

Iiiiinnteresting.


The stuff is weird for sure. Most people, self included, reported great pumps for the first week or so then..nothin'.

I was the same.

Whats your opinion on Creatine Gluconate?

[bioman]

Haven't tried it. Seems a lot of people like it FWIW.

[Jayhawkk]

Got to love tried and true methods but it's hard not to try something new and see for yourself. Placebo does wonders too though Thanks for ****ing with my reality!

[WannaBeHulk]

YES!!! ive been saying this all along! i cant count how many times ive been flamed at bodybuilding dot com's forum for stating this opinion:

ive never like CEE and always wondered how it received so much attention without the research behind it. the bad thing is i just started synthesize whhich includes CEE in the formula, but i didnt buy it for the creatine content. monohydrate will always be king

[bioman]

I always wondered if it was placebo or if CEE had a really short shelf life. I've still got some of the kilo I bought 3 years ago..does nothing now, but when I first got it it did do something.

[jmh80]

No form of creatine I've tried for more than a week has really given me much of anything.

I've not tried the gluconate though because it gives me the major runs. I've got some SizeOn - but have to use it when a bathroom is close due to explosive blowouts.


Good post Die. Reps. (Even though you iz a Gator.)

[Jayhawkk]

I've started the Size-On and so far I can't say anything about it other than it never stays mixed.

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by WannaBeHulk

YES!!! ive been saying this all along! i cant count how many times ive been flamed at bodybuilding dot com's forum for stating this opinion:

:

I think it sucks too, I'll neg em all on BB.com for ya

[thesinner]

Amen! Finally some results showing what I've been saying for a while now.

[PHWSSJ]

i never got anything out of CEE.... I remember using monohydrate in highschool. I gained 12 lbs and got way stronger and could workout longer.

[MakaveliThaDon]

I think the funniest part about this whole thing is the so called "creatine non responders" who all of the sudden started responding when they switched over to CEE. That makes me LOL.

[thesinner]

Next week, we'll discuss the term "psycosomatic" , and how strategic marketing can potentiate it.

[strategicmove]