New diet drug touches off a feeding frenzy
- 06-15-2007, 06:21 PM
New diet drug touches off a feeding frenzy
At 9:30 a.m. on Thursday, 12 boxes of alli, the first FDA-sanctioned diet drug to be sold without a prescription, were placed on the top shelf of a Santa Monica Walgreens' diet section. Four hours later, all but one had been sold.
New diet drug touches off a feeding frenzy - Los Angeles Times
- 06-15-2007, 06:22 PM
But it can also result in what the manufacturer describes as loose stools and gas with an oily discharge. "It's probably a smart idea to wear dark pants, and bring a change of clothes with you to work," the drug's official website says. (The drug maker's literature and website say side effects can be minimized with a low-fat, reduced-calorie diet.)
The hypocrasy of our government banning Halodrol-50, yet allowing something like THIS that screws up your insides....amazing.
- 06-15-2007, 06:29 PM
I see the irony of your statement, but halodrol 50 is a copy of a banned substance, so the FDA ordered it pulled.
Its not officially banned of course, but the original manufacturers got a bunch of flak.
This drug sounds like a joke. So it blocks about 25% of the fat you eat. Thats pretty worthless. Most people on a "diet" eat too little fat, too many carbs. All this does is make low fat diets even unhealthier.
Ephedrine was the ****, I need to pick up more bronkaid.
06-15-2007, 06:41 PM
06-15-2007, 07:00 PM
it blocks fat? i know ppl dont like BSN that much but the cheaters works pretty damn good at doing just that and its alot cheaper
06-15-2007, 09:03 PM
It's gonna be a huge hit here fo' sho'. In actuality the science is pretty damn good on this.
Competitive inhibition of pancreatic lipase enzyme, which would limit the breakdown and subsequent assimilation of fatty acids" = cheaters dream.
I'm jumpin on the wagon if it allows me some leniency with the occasional binge on metric ass-loads of adipose-laden delicacies.
06-15-2007, 09:08 PM
06-15-2007, 09:44 PM
Hell - I sh*t myself every once and a while after eating cheat food without this stuff. Can't be much worse...
06-15-2007, 10:52 PM
It's things like this that have me praying for the next big asteroid impact.
The drug is clever though. In order to stop side effects, you must reduce fat consumption which will immediately reduce caloric intake (theoretically) therefore resulting in weightloss. And they'll think it was the drug.
I really do look forward to seeing people walking around with little doodoo stains on their pants.
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06-15-2007, 11:17 PM
06-15-2007, 11:39 PM
Wow. This just goes to show how people don't look into their stuff half the time. I bet a bunch of morons ran in a gave into the label not even knowing what they are taking. I hope someone ****s their pants at work casue of it. Stuff like this btohers me becasue i talk to people and they don't realize how much i know, so they rant and rave about supps/burners/ etc. and i nod my head like yea yea and how does that work again? What is the active ingrediant....? Oh you're not sure....you're supplementing my urine for all you know. :---RANT OVER!---:
06-16-2007, 06:58 AM
Its interesting the box, it has a "you should weigh more than the weight next to your height to use this product" and all sorts of other oddities.
Alli has its value I think. A good majority of the people here are taking products with slightly worse side effects than "crap your pants". At least the damage with alli is over with once you stop taking it, unlike PH or roids.
Makes me think about the one futurama episode, pity the video isn't directly online. I'll have to pull out the dvd and rip the clip but here is the synopsis
In the Futurama episode, “Bendin' in the Wind” (3ACV13), Bender consumes a single chip cooked with Olestra and has a stomach ache, then proceeds to drop a load of bricks from his buttocks.
Really its only value is that it will help people who are on the fence and close to making a change in their life already, not a cure-all. Its another one of those combo Silver Bullet / Threshold items. Dammit, I really need to write those 2 blog entries since tho they are related they are deep enough to need more separate coverage. It will appeal to the silver bullet crowd as in "aha here is the answer to why I am a lardass, and taking this will fix me, and I can still eat a bag of chips and have twinkies for dessert every meal", and for the majority it will fail and people will eventually stop taking it. On the other hand for at least some people it will provide the threshold event in their lives to break them past their prior lack of motivation/determination/stagnation and give them just enough of a difference that with the change in diet and starting to excersize they will take the weight off and keep it off.
Last edited by EasyEJL; 06-16-2007 at 07:47 AM.
06-16-2007, 10:18 AM
doesnt matter if it works or not, with $130 million in advertising, you could get people to spend $60 on a box of salt tabs and tell them they will loose weight.
thats the plan for my next supp
look for it at your local supp store. ha
06-16-2007, 01:21 PM
ROFL! Pretty sure this is not the "auto-sh*t-omatic everyone makes it out to be.
Additionally its far from being a laxative.
rickeepoo (ironic name given the thread) referencing my post above, going for a run = nominal acute caloric impact, whilst the acute caloric impact of Alli = teh sh!t
Eating fewer calories as you said is quite counter-intuitive to the "occasional binge" that I referenced and that we all should have once in a while IMHO.
06-16-2007, 01:23 PM
06-17-2007, 12:42 AM
They are going to make a fortune on that drug. We all know there is a large portion of the population that will take this junk, sit on the couch eat a box of Twinkies and a gallon of Pepsi, pop one of those bad boys and call it a day.
Along with uncontrolled bowel movements, one of the listed possible side effect is incontinance. So you get a double joy of peeing all over yourself while crapping your pants!
Oh yeah, I want some of this junk.
06-17-2007, 03:10 AM
your right, nothing will replace a clean diet and working out. however, one of the main reasons supps are developed is to give the average person that does not diet and workout, a little push or enhancement to achieve their goals with less work than doing it naturally.
Will Alli replace diet and exercise? absolutly not....
Will Alli do what it claims it will do? absolutly.
Perfect wording and perfect advertising will make or break a product, i know from experience.
however this product will do what it claims, you just have to pay attention to exactly what it is claiming to do.
06-17-2007, 11:30 PM
(The drug maker's literature and website say side effects can be minimized with a low-fat, reduced-calorie diet.)
Does anyone find this really ironic?
06-17-2007, 11:51 PM
06-18-2007, 05:12 AM
Still for sure its not a silver bullet, just another aid like an ECA stack
06-18-2007, 05:16 AM
06-18-2007, 05:28 AM
This drug is Orlisat at half dose. It's been in the making for OTC consumption for a while now and looks like it finally made it around. Ever wonder why OTC products are measured at half dose compared to prescription dose? It's their theory of protection.
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06-18-2007, 05:43 AM
07-24-2007, 11:20 AM
Trying this with the wife, since she has health issues and the doctor said it's worth a shot to try. She ahs serious thyroid issues and even with a picture perfect diet and workout routine, has trouble getting the weitgh off she likes.
2 days into this thing I am afraid to take a dump. Drop some cooking oil into the toilet the next time you go near one...and then we will all have the same visual....
07-24-2007, 11:34 AM
07-24-2007, 11:37 AM
07-24-2007, 03:47 PM
07-24-2007, 03:52 PM
07-24-2007, 07:57 PM
I may have sounded a bit heartless in my post on this matter a few weeks ago. As someone who has spent most of my adult life fighting the battle of the buldge; I understand the fustration of people who try hard and the scale just will not move. FWIW, I have been on both sides of this issue. I have been ripped and turned around to see a fat slob in the mirror. It creeps up on you when you aren't looking. In the past 7 months, I have droppedd 60 pounds. And no way is my race run on this. If someone came up with a safe, side effect free pill that will really cause your body to drop fat, I will be the first in line with check book in hand. I just just do not believe Allei is it.
With that said, this looks like another "drug dejure" for the ill informed masses. Yes, there are people that can not lose weight, no matter what they do. If this is the case, then there is an underlying medical issue that most doctors blow off. Health insurance carriers do not want to deal with the obesity problem, it will simply cost too much. Cheaper and easier to let the person blow up like a ballon, have a couple heart attacks and die.
And of course, there are people that have no self control. I beleive this to be the majority. Think of the fat man with the equally fat wife and the four or five huge kids eating like hogs at the all you can eat rib place. I use to feel sorry for really huge people. Not that much anymore. I have simply seen too much. My wife, who is 5'4" and is about 125 works her ass off to keep herself at that size. We were at a Chinese buffet and was she literally knocked down on the floor and trampled by four 300+ women because Michele got between them and a new batch of deep fried shrimp. Yeah, I almost went to jail that night.
I have seen way to many successes in the gym by really big people that committed to change to believe it can not be done. Last year a 19 yo girl came into the gym, she was so fat, she went to a trucking company to get an accurate weight on her. She could not walk the length of the gym. But by shear guts and hard work, she lost 100 pounds in just over a year. She will never be small, but she now has a figure, and can out distance most of the people I know.
Yes there are people who have endocin system issues. These people deserve all the help and support we can give them. But IMHO, too many people are just sitting back refusing to change their life style waiting for someone to do it for them.
The drug companies feed on this. If the US Health Department, the AMA, and big pharma was serious about dealing with the obesity epidemic in this country, they would be screaming from the mountain tops what to do. They won't. There is just too much money to be made: prescription and OTC fat drugs, surgery, gizmos and gadgets. Then there is the down stream money to be made from heart bypass operations, chlorestorol drugs and so on. Follow the money trail.
Someone here mentioned his wife has a thyroid issue. God bless her. She is not nor anyone like her is included in this rant. She deserves all the support anyone can give her.
I guess this issue is too big to really take on here. Yet I can not help but believe that Allei or what ever that thing is called is just more junk for the masses too lazy to wake up and get moving.
07-24-2007, 08:40 PM
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