[EasyEJL]

Well, took it about 20 minutes ago, empty stomach. Feeling a little warm, a little bit of "medicine head". Grandma has the kids till tomorrow, so we'll see what happens.

I've previously taken cialis + viagra (still have some, but its not that exciting), so I'll be able to make a nice comparison. I'll also ask my wife's opinion

Letcha know what happens!

[Palo Alto Labs]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Well, took it about 20 minutes ago, empty stomach. Feeling a little warm, a little bit of "medicine head". Grandma has the kids till tomorrow, so we'll see what happens.

I've previously taken cialis + viagra (still have some, but its not that exciting), so I'll be able to make a nice comparison. I'll also ask my wife's opinion

Letcha know what happens!

keep us in the loop..ahhahhahaha

[EasyEJL]

Well, its definitely a little nicer on the blood pressure than Cialis. I have to watch out once I take that, as it tends to give me headaches, as well as make me a little dizzy, particular if I bend down or get up fast. Nothing like that so far with aspire!

So far i'm not catching wood off the breeze, but round 1 was nice, I lasted a bit longer than normal too. Not much else to tell so far, be back later after dinner

[bludevil]

don't keep aquiring minds waiting...

[john123131]

nice.....keep us updated!

[EasyEJL]

Well I got caught attempting to update this on friday and was told that if I was going to run from the bedroom to the computer to put in updates, I'd be finishing off the next 30 hours of aspire myself

So I have to be general. I'd say aspire's effect is somewhere between 10-20mg of Cialis, but with a few differences.

positive side effects

No headache
no dizzyness on fast getting up from bending down - this was the most irritating Cialis side effect I thought
no stomach issues
sex lasted longer

negative side effects

the first few hours my face was flushed, really red

thats the only negative vs cialis.




As far as the primary effect goes, I wasn't one of those who got an erection every time I saw something female, or that looked like a female body part, but when I wanted one I had one. The sex lasted longer each time too, but none of it seemed really crazy, other than maybe number of times in 36 hours

And we can forget comparing viagra, its really a 1 shot drug and not in the same category. Its not even that great for the 1 shot Levitra I need to ask for some samples of to compare, I may be able to do that next weekend, but from what I know, its not even as good as Cialis.

Without taking price into account, I'd definitely take the Aspire over Viagra or Cialis hands down, and once you look at price too, its no contest at all. I haven't bought any of the Cialis or Viagra so far (its all been samples), but I'm going to buy a bottle of Aspire.

I think Palo Alto Labs needs to work out a good system to make sure that free samples aren't abused, and do the deceptive prescription pharmaceutical packaging for the samples as well, including nice brochure and all. I can send you a viagra samler pack (empty), and probably get a cialis or levitra one for you. Then its just a case of getting enough advertising out there that enough people try it, and by word of mouth it will float around enough. I'd make the sampler packs 2 caps too, that way they either get a second chance to guarantee they are hooked, or have a spare to give to a friend and you get two people

Should sell like wildfire.

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Wow, glad you liked it, and thanks for the feedback. Interesting thoughts about the pharm packaging, but I think it sounds a little deceptive.

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Wow, glad you liked it, and thanks for the feedback. Interesting thoughts about the pharm packaging, but I think it sounds a little deceptive.

Yeah, it could be considered deceptive, I just think that would be the easiest/most helpful way to break out of the bodybuilders/sport nutrition niche and hit more mass market. Theres a whole lot of 40+ guys out there who are buying the enzytes and other products, and they all come packaged looking like at the very least OTC drugs. The little plastic baggie with folded cardstock on top makes it look a little iffy, unserious, if you aren't used to bulk type products. I'd gladly take the rest of what you have in those off your hands

And doing a nice foldout written in the style of a prescription drug interactions, dosage, cautions, etc isn't deceptive particularly, its actually way more informative than most supplements go, so a plus

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Wow, glad you liked it, and thanks for the feedback. Interesting thoughts about the pharm packaging, but I think it sounds a little deceptive.

Is it deceptive if it works? I would like to hear the consumers feedback..

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

Is it deceptive if it works? I would like to hear the consumers feedback..

Thats not what Palo Alto is all about. We don't want to look deceptive to our consumers. Yes Aspire works, look at the feedback, thats how we will sell our products, not by gimicky marketing and deception.

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Thats not what Palo Alto is all about. We don't want to look deceptive to our consumers. Yes Aspire works, look at the feedback, thats how we will sell our products, not by gimicky marketing and deception.

Still a more professional/serious looking sample package, and a more serious looking informative sheet with it isn't necessarily gimmicky marketing or deceptive. A plain brown envelope with a little plastic bag with stapled on paper tag doesn't inspire confidence as much as a nice blisterpack with pushthru foil that has more information about the product, and a pull out data sheet. Really I was primarily talking about the samples, not the main marketing + bottles

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Really I was primarily talking about the samples, not the main marketing + bottles

Gotcha. Well for now we are only doing 5,000 samples. Maybe in the next run we will do something like that. Blisterpacks are pretty expensive and kind of a pain though (especially with liquicaps). I agree with you that a brochure of some type should be sent out with the product so people are not blindly taking it without knowing more about it. Although for this run, most people read about it online via the forums before they requested it.

[Palo Alto Labs]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Still a more professional/serious looking sample package, and a more serious looking informative sheet with it isn't necessarily gimmicky marketing or deceptive. A plain brown envelope with a little plastic bag with stapled on paper tag doesn't inspire confidence as much as a nice blisterpack with pushthru foil that has more information about the product, and a pull out data sheet. Really I was primarily talking about the samples, not the main marketing + bottles

Thanks for the input.... I know we haven't mentioned it yet, but in 5 weeks, we will have single Aspire36 blisterpacks. The reason we went for the 'plastic bag stapled to a card' was purely timing. Blister packs take another 4-7 weeks for manufacture, and we didn't want to hold out on getting Aspire to you guys any longer.

I will post pics of the blisterpack up as soon as it is in-office (about 3-4 more weeks or so)

[bLacKjAck.]

I, for one really like the bottles that they come in when you buy a whole package!!