"completely natural" what does that mean? No protein powder? No skim milk? No chocolate?
Where does one draw the line between natural, cooking and chemistry?
Food is full of anabolics, but who says food is safe? Our planet is a mine field of chemicals and mutations, and no I'm not saying I hate science or I blame it ether!
I'm saying I take whatever seems safe, just like I assume my sweetner is safe, because even if it's not, it may well be safer than real sugar anyway!
Aw man, I sound like a crazy man.
Nelix, when I mean natural I mean non-synthesized chemicals. I know people will play on that and try to split hairs on it. I know what you mean about anabolics, but last time I checked when I ate a steak it didn't have any 'natural superdrol in it' so that's what my implication was about being natural. My definition of natural was put up at the top so that's kinda what I was implying about.
You know the interesting this is, yes, you can look at PubMed but at the end of the day, while animal studies have SOME correlation to humans in comparison, they are not actual human studies. So this means that there is a certain assumption that comes with with the studies. Fortunately animals are a bit more dispensible than humans (yes I said that PETA and I won't take it back) so that is the basis we have to draw conclusions.
I'm all for the person to make their own decisions and wouldn't even begin to question it. I do not use any type of hormones, anabolics, AI's, nothing, just creatine, proteins, and vitamins only. The reason why I do this is b/c I have too much going for me career wise and my accomplishments so far and since cardiovascular disease, cancer, and prostate issues are high problems with men, I don't want to tempt the odds.
I'll help my friends and other people who have questions about mixing certain compounds and expectation from it, that's no problem, but I most certaintly won't put the chemical compounds they are taking into my own body.
bioman: Even if there is some fault in the manufacturer, what if you've already taken the product ? Its not like if they are wrong there is a way to extract it out of your body.