My 3-ad / 11-oxo Question
- 05-25-2007, 11:40 AM
My 3-ad / 11-oxo Question
How much 11-oxo do you need to take before you get an anabolic effect? Since PA doesn't want the Anabolic Agents knocking at his door - I'm thinking that the suggested dosage of up to 450mg per day will not yield an anabolic effect.
Am I correct in this line of thinking? If so, than how much do you need? What I really want to know is how much 11-oxo is needed to equal an "anabolic" serving of 3-AD?
- 05-25-2007, 11:59 AM
I'd think your thoughts are pretty well in line. I think 3-AD was recommended at 450-600mg/day but they also have some "absorption agent" in it too.
05-25-2007, 06:35 PM
so if you take the 11oxo at recommended dose for it not to be anobolic will you still need a serm.because everbody is saying you will need a serm with the 3-ad.a if you did take 3-ad what dose good you take so it would not need a serm in pct.the reasone i ask is want stack hdx2,massxf,3-ad.but don't have access to serm.and if you have to have one will have to go with hdx2,masxf,retain2.
05-25-2007, 09:12 PM
05-26-2007, 02:48 AM
i was going to buy some but waiting right now for some test results and usage results, that 3ad promised to release on the release date. i really have no access to serm either.
05-26-2007, 03:55 AM
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05-27-2007, 07:23 PM
its only been in reference to to PCT, definatley no need for it while on.... but i can see how you see it sayign something to that effect.
05-27-2007, 07:31 PM
Maximum recommended dose for 11-oxo is 450mg, so I would imagine 450 to be the 'dividing line' so to speak.
05-27-2007, 11:00 PM
I do NOT speak for 11-oxo nor do i speak for PA or Proviant................
3-AD is dosed at 150mg per cap and our recommended is 450mg.....we have 84 caps in our bottles for the SAME price as Hyperdrol.........
do the math.......
05-28-2007, 12:32 AM
2 + 3 = 9?
05-28-2007, 12:37 AM
Well I know someone who managed to acquire a beta bottle of 3-ad and will be getting some panels done to find out how suppressive it really is. 10 days at 300mg and the remaining days at 450mg. Blood will be drawn on day 31 or 32.
05-28-2007, 01:24 AM
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05-28-2007, 01:58 PM
i usually just add higher dose to my last couple days as well to hit 4 weeks even. this will work just fine stil and fit into my normal cycles pretty well, although i may grab a second bottle to dose high if wanted or extra long..... cant wait.
05-29-2007, 09:47 AM
so if i run the massxf,hperdolx2,3-ad stack i would not need a serm right.and also would that be a good stack.if not go easy on me i am new here.
05-31-2007, 06:18 PM
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