The Reishi Mushroom
- 05-16-2007, 06:25 AM
The Reishi Mushroom
For over 2000 years Reishi mushrooms (Ganoderma lucidum) have been recognized by Chinese medical professionals as a valuable remedy. Its Chinese name Lingzhi, means spiritual potency. Reishi mushrooms are regarded by the Chinese as the Medicine of Ki
I love my Reishi Mushroom Tea. I have noticed improved sleep, anti inflammatory, and alleviation of allergy symptoms from it.
Google: Reishi mushroom to read all the benefits this mushrooms has.
- 05-16-2007, 10:16 AMBoard Sponsor
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Interesting. Which tea do you buy?
- 05-16-2007, 03:35 PM
I have been buying Whole Caps at a Chinese grocery store and grating them myself. Don't do it, it blows.
I just got a lb of Reishi Mushroom powder from the 2nd link below. That's where I also get my Maca. Go to their bulk herbs page. Make sure you get the powder and not the caps. You'll be grating them for awhile.
I had some last night and it knocked me the hell out. My shoulders and back are not as tight and my knees semm nore lubricated as well. Reishi is #1 in Chinese pharmacopia, did I spell that right? They used to trade this shroom back in the day for its weight in gold. My wife and I love it. I'll pull some more info up on it.
Lingzhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reishi Mushroom Profile
05-16-2007, 06:46 PM
Just ordered a small amount from BAC. I'll check it out.
05-17-2007, 07:07 PM
Have you tried Agaricus blazei. It's a Brazilian mushroom that is high in the most healthy of the beta-d glucans as it often runs way over 50% of the total mushroom. It is used heavily in Japan and the rest of the orient as a health food these days -- extremely popular there.
In terms of just health concerns, it blows the rest of the medicinal mushrooms out of the water.
05-18-2007, 07:51 AM
Agaricus subrufescens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Go down the page a little bit.
Delayed Cell Cycle Progression and Apoptosis Induced by Hemicellulase-Treated Agaricus blazei
Reishi Tea Update: I always crack my neck, bad I know. My neck doesn't have as much pain/not as tense and all of my joints feel like they are more lubricated.
Thanks for the heads up on this tuberman. I now have another shroom for my tea. Gotta find a kg.
Is there any way to change the thread title to "Powerful Medicinal Shrooms"?
Last edited by Mach .78; 05-18-2007 at 08:14 AM.
05-18-2007, 08:35 AM
If you guys are interested in mushroom extracts, there's an awesome book called MycoMedicals by Paul Stamets. Reishi, cordyceps, rhodiola, has them all. Really recommend this if you guys want to know a little more on the shroom world
05-18-2007, 09:35 AM
05-18-2007, 12:53 PM
The other thing that is becoming more common is a mix of many of the medicinal mushrooms in nearly equal amounts. Agaricus blazei, Maitake, Shiitake, Reishi, Cordyceps,Lion's Mane, and Turkey Tail are often among these as well as several others.
I ran into a list of the actives in reishi mushrooms once and it had over 20 actives if I remember correctly -- but the beta-d-gluans, and especially the 1,3; 1,6 variety are of the most documented and tested for health bennies. Reishi does have a lot of these beta glucan and may be the second highest of the medicinal mushrooms in this category. A good cordyceps has about half the beta glucans of a reishi, and less than a third of what a good quality Agaricus blazei has.
On the other hand cordyceps is highest in actives that add to endurance and extra ATP.
05-18-2007, 01:39 PM
My wife used to take one called "Host Defense". Have you taken any Agaricus blazei supps. and what did you notice, if anything from it?
05-18-2007, 03:13 PM
05-18-2007, 04:57 PM
I've used the beta 1,6 glucans before for colds. It kinda shortened the duration of the cold but it ramped my immune system up so much that my adenoids were producing puss and really inflammed. Eyes also get pretty red too. Kinda freaked my out so I quit experimenting with it.
05-19-2007, 10:31 AM
It's not supposed to work that way as the beta glucans are supposed to upregulate the immune system with a minimum of those type of side effects -- it's not supposed to act like an Echinacea for example, which has many of those type of sides if used very long. Yet I'm sure some people do get those effects.
Echinacea ramps up the immune system, whereas the beta glucans are meant to act in a more subtle way of actually regulating the immune system, avoiding irritation of auto-immune problems and sometimes even lessening them.
But there may be exceptions.
05-19-2007, 10:35 AM
05-19-2007, 03:16 PM
Just tried some good Reishi extract last night. It really does seem to relax the mind and shoulder/neck muscles very nicely. Slept pretty well although my daughter had me up at 2am.
Not having any immune reactions at this time. I was pretty sick when I took the beta glucans so that's likely the causitive factor.
I'd like to get my wife on it. She has ulcerative colitis which is largely an autoimmune disease. IF reishi really does modulate the immune system, then this would likely be a good course. I am a little leary of it boosting her already hyperactive immune system but there doesn't seem to much evidence that reishi would do this. She could also use the anti-anxiety effects as well.
05-20-2007, 07:28 AM
This stuff looks interesting. If you don't feel like reading the big paragraph, scroll to the bottom for it's benefits. I don't even remember how I came across this stuff. I asked for it in the product request thread at NP. Oh yea, Google: Chalcones. That's the active in it. I think I came across Vitamin Shoppe selling it.
Edit: I can't put up any links because the curse filter blocks out half of the name. grrr.
Ashi taba is all one word. I am referring to the second google entry.
05-20-2007, 10:20 AM
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Ashi taba is supposed to be GREAT stuff. My Japanese sister-in-law swears by it, says a host of aging related stuff improved when she started using it.
05-20-2007, 11:18 AM
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Mushrooms are definately of interest to me and many times get underlooked by many. As some of you know we use mushrooms in some of our products. Cordygen5 is 100% shroom powered and we and Kreaceps and soon to be released Kreaceps-XS both contain mushrooms also.
05-20-2007, 12:18 PM
Chalcones: structural requirements for antioxidant, estrogenic and antiproliferative
* Calliste CA,
* Le Bail JC,
* Trouillas P,
* Pouget C,
* Habrioux G,
* Chulia AJ,
* Duroux JL.
UPRES EA 1085, Biomolecules et cibles cellulaires tumorales-Proliferation cellulaire et inhibition enzymatique, Laboratoire de Biophysique, Faculte de Pharmacie, Limoges, France.
Flavonoids are largely studied for their biological properties and particularly for their scavenging and antioxidant activities. In the present study, we first evaluated the antioxidant and the estrogenic actions of chalcones, then we tested their effects on MCF-7 cell proliferation. Chalcones are unique in the flavonoids family in lacking a heterocyclic C ring. We tested substituted chalcones with different numbers and different positions of the hydroxy groups: 2'-hydroxychalcone, 4'-hydroxychalcone, 4-hydroxychalcone, 2',4-dihydroxychalcone, isoliquiritigenin, 2',4'-dihydroxychalcone, phloretin and naringenin chalcone. For the antioxidant tests we established the importance of the alpha-beta double bond and the 6'-hydroxy group. The establishment of the structure-activity relationship for the estrogenic properties showed a correlation between the antioxidant and the estrogenic properties. The importance of conformation and hydroxy group positions observed for chalcones, having antioxidant and estrogenic properties, was also observed on MCF-7 cell growth with the same structure-activity relationship. The role of electron and hydrogen transfer in the correlation between these three biological activities was discussed.
PMID: 11911276 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
05-20-2007, 12:56 PM
A****aba, A Medicinal Plant and Health Method
By Kazuo Hida
Medicinal Plant Specialist
A****ABA (Tomorrow's leaf) has its origins on the Island of Hachijo where the warm tropical currents pass by on their way North to meet the cold Arctic waters of the Pacific. How did A****aba come by its name of tomorrow's leaf or weed. It was named for its ability to reproduce its green stem and leaf almost on a daily basis.
Asitaba's scientific name, Angelica keiskei Koidzumi, comes from the Latin name for Angel, and because of its godly effects that have given it its notoriety. The population of Hachijo Island are known for their longevity, living until the ripe old age of 90's. When all aspects of their life style were analyzed the determination was that the consumption of a****aba was a heavy contribution to the extended lifetime. As more study was conducted on the composition of this special strain of angelica, a****aba has been attracting more and more attention from the scientific community.
Medicinal Value of this plant
The oldest written record of the medicinal value of A****aba appears in a Chinese book listing the medicines that can be derived from grass. The book was first published during the Ming Dynasty and was written by Dr. Lee during his lifetime from 1518 to 1593 AD. This book was then transcribed into Latin, English, German, Russian and became internationally famous as a publication on Oriental Medicine. It was brought into Japan and presented to the Shogun by Razan Hayashi in 1606.
Green plants such as A****aba are the basis of our energy conversion life cycle. These green plants contain chlorophyll whth uses tho energy from the sun to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen and create a by-product, starch. Chlorophyll has shown an ability to be an anti-bacterial, aid in the production of blood, and an ability to help heal wounds.
A****aba, which contains high levels of chlorophyll, is actually a weed, and is used to existing under sever conditions such as high winds, rain, high salinity, and generally bad weather. However, it is actually these same conditions that train the a****aba plant and build its constitution so that it can produce the unique by-products that can help keep the body and its functions in balance.
A****aba contains a yellow sap which contains chalcones that are unique to this strain of angelica. It is these chalcones that are considered as the active ingredients that give rise to a****aba's use as a diuretic, laxative, and aid to good metabolism.
A****aba also contains B 12, which is normally produced in animals and not plants. It is this uniqueness that places a****aba in the same category as marine products such as marine algae instead of other land based green plants. Vitamin B12 has been recognized for its ability to promote the production of blood cells, increase attention span and concentration, increase the production of growth hormone, and promote the immune system so that it can fight off serious disorder; such as cancer.
A****aba has also been used as a treatment for the following disorders:
Gl tract disorders:
acute gastritis, chronic gastritis,
chlorhydria, stomach cancer, duodenal ulcer,
descensus ventriculi, gastric atoonia and chronic enteritis
Chronic hepatitis, Cell reproduction, Blood cleansing,
High blood pressure Carcinoma, Vascular augmentation, Anemia,
Chronic Fatigue Hangover, Asthma, Common colds,
Production of sperm Diabetes, Shoulder Stiffness, Laxative
Diuretic, Neurosis, Hemorrhoids, Aging of skin
More info. www.organicashi
05-20-2007, 06:57 PM
I love finding herbs,mushrooms etc., that take care of a wide variety of problems. I mean, look at all that stuff it hits.
More weird and far out herbs and mushrooms please.
05-20-2007, 08:56 PM
I agree. It's nice when you can take one thing instead of 10, lol.
05-20-2007, 11:02 PM
I did some followup reading on Ashi taba, and it looks very impressive. This is why it's so great to compare notes with others.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention Mach. 78.
05-21-2007, 10:10 AM
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Olive leaf extract
Most of the research on olive leaf’s anti-viral properties have come from studies on calcium elenolate. Calcium elenolate is not in olive leaf extracts nor does it occur in your body. “Calcium elenolate came from acid hydrolysis of elenolic acid. Where by they boiled elenolic acid with calcium carbonate to produce Calcium elenolate.” according to Richard Hall of Ameriden International. Ameriden - Olive leaf extract The antiviral studies to date have proven strong effectiveness in-vitro (test tubes) and using nasal washes. When taken orally they results were not the same. Olive leaf does contain Oleurpein. When Oleuropein is taken orally it breaks down into other compounds, one of which is elenolic acid. Elenolic acid has been found to be highly virucidal in lab tests. (Kaij-a-Kamb, M; Amoros, M; Girre, L. “Search for new antiviral agents of plant origin. Pharma-Acta-Helv, 67(5–6):130–47, 1992). Scientists for Upjohn learned in the 1970s that calcium elenolate blood serum protein bound in all the human studies (in vivo) rendering it ineffectual. (I do not understand this completely so cannot describe it more simply). This is an important point because many products selling olive leaf as antiviral back their claims by citing the results from calcium elenolate. More testing needs to be done to confirm effectiveness of olive leaf as an anti-viral treatment.
Global Information Hub for Integrated Medicine Olive leaf extract has reported antiviral activity, reportedly caused by the constituent calcium elenolate, a derivative of elenolic acid.(13, 14) Some viruses inhibited by calcium elenolate in vitro include rhinovirus, myxoviruses, Herpes simplex type I, Herpes simplex type II, Herpes zoster, Encephalomyocarditis, Polio 1, 2, and 3, two strains of leukemia virus, many strains of influenza and para-influenza viruses.(15, 16, 17) The mechanism of action of the antiviral activity is reported to include18)
An ability to interfere with critical amino acid production essential for viruses.
An ability to contain viral infection and/or spread by inactivating viruses or by preventing virus shedding, budding, or assembly at the cell membrane.
Ability to directly penetrate infected cells and stop viral replication.
In the case of retroviruses, it is able to neutralize the production of reverse transcriptase and protease.
Stimulation of phagocytosis.
13 Renis HE. In vitro antiviral activity of calcium elenolate. Antimicrob. Agents Chemother. 1970;167–72. PMID: 5396483
14 Heinze JE, et al. Specificity of the antiviral agent calcium elenolate. Antimicrob Agents Chemother. Oct1975;8(4):421–5.
15 Renis HE. Inactivation of myxoviruses by calcium elenolate. Antimicrob Agents Chemother. Aug1975;8(2):194–9.
16 Hirschman SZ. Inactivation of DNA polymerases of murine leukaemia viruses by calcium elenolate. Nat New Biol. Aug1972;238(87):277–9.
17 Soret MG. Antiviral activity of calcium elenolate on parainfluenza infection of hamsters. Antimicrob Agents Chemother. 1969;9:160–6. PMID: 4319307
24 Hansen K, et al. Isolation of an angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitor from olea europaea and olea lacea. Phytomedicine. 1996;2:319–325.
Influenza virus infection of hamsters. A model for evaluating antiviral drugs. Arch Virol. 1977;54(1–2):85–93. PMID: 889443
http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/picrend...f&artid=153148 page 11
Global Information Hub for Integrated Medicine
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11571.cfm?RecordID=592 Oleuropein is converted into elenoic acid in the body which may prevent viruses and bacteria from replicating (8).
(8) Horn C. Olive leaf to fight infection. Natural Health 2000;30:40
Anti-HIV properties of Olive leaf extract include up-regulation of the expression of apoptosis inhibitor proteins as well as protein kinase signaling molecules (4).
4) Lee-Huang S, Zhang L, Huang PL, Chang YT, Huang PL. Anti-HIV activity of olive leaf extract (OLE) and modulation of host cell gene expression by HIV-1 infection and OLE treatment. Biochem.Biophys.Res Commun. 2003;307:1029–37.
Olive Leaf Extract is non-toxic. However, a “die off” or Herxheimer’s reaction may occur from killing too many pathogens too quickly. This is experienced as “flu-like” symptoms or allergic attacks which pass quickly leaving the patient feeling much better than before taking the extract.
Someone at risk for Herxheimer’s should try a reduced dose at first, then work up.
Olive Leaf Extract may inactivate antibiotics and should not be taken with them.
The amino acids glycine, lysine, histadine, and cysteine including N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) may interfere with the action of one of the components of Olive Leaf Extract. However, there are at least six active substances in the extract and it may not have a significant clinical effect. These six substances work together to prevent resistance by pathogenic organisms.
05-21-2007, 05:10 PM
I'll see your olive leaf and raise you.......
Oil Of Oregano *****s Modern Antibiotic Drugs
Last edited by Mach .78; 05-21-2007 at 07:28 PM.
05-22-2007, 05:39 PM
Hmmm, Olive leaf and Oregano oil, we can always use antibiotic and anti-viral herbs in todays world -- good stuff you two. Thanks
06-04-2007, 07:40 PM
1: Biol Pharm Bull. 2006 Feb;29(2):392-5.Click here to read Links
5alpha-reductase inhibitory effect of triterpenoids isolated from Ganoderma lucidum.
Liu J, Kurashiki K, Shimizu K, Kondo R.
Department of Forest and Forest Products Science, Faculty of Agriculture, Kyushu University, Fukuoka 812-8581, Japan.
5alpha-Reductase inhibitory activity-guided fractionation of the EtOH extract of the fruiting body of Ganoderma lucidum (LEYSS.:FR.) KARST. (Ganodermataceae), which is called Reishi, or Mannentake in Japan and Lingzhi in China, led to the isolation of two active compounds which were ganoderic acid DM and 5alpha-lanosta-7,9(11),24-triene-15alpha,26-dihydroxy-3-one with an IC(50) of 10.6 microM and 41.9 microM respectively. A carboxyl group of side chain of ganoderic acid DM is essential to elicit the inhibitory activity because of much less activity of its methyl ester.
PMID: 16462054 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
06-04-2007, 08:49 PM
This thread rules. I love it. Which to try first???
Hey, you guys should check out Discount Vitamins & Vitamin Supplements - SwansonVitamins.com (relora, glucosamine, red yeast rice, turmeric, stevia, coq10)
Their prices rule because they make their own stuff. I personally use their Super Green Max Plus mixture. I was suspicious at first of their low prices, but the mixture is definitely potent. I also use their psyllium husk fiber. Check it out!! They have most of this stuff you just mentioned.
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06-08-2007, 03:22 AM
That company New Chapter seems to have a lot of VERY interesting supplements. I switched my multivitamin to their 'Stress Relief Multi' or whatever it's called and started taking supercritical Holy Basil because of all the information someone in my building has been giving me about some really cool herbs.
06-08-2007, 05:28 AM
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Beyond a Century has Cordyceps powder and a Multi Mushroom powder that I have been eyeballing lately. I may have to give them a shot. I remember them being cheap too. I will have to browse Swanson again.
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06-08-2007, 09:53 AM
BAC's Reishi seems to work fine. Their 28/8 Gingko rocks. Gingko and Reishi are making BiO a very calm boy.
I haven't road raged on anyone in days. lol
06-10-2007, 11:52 PM
would love to hear if your wife tries it, and/or her results on it. I too have the UC and have read about every one of your threads relating to it.
Thanks in advance.
06-11-2007, 01:37 AM
Thus far, outside of her being less anxious and sleeping better there is no change in her UC status.
06-11-2007, 06:37 AM
what a great thread i love herbology
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06-11-2007, 12:54 PM
06-12-2007, 09:56 PM
Bio- thanks for the response. UC sux big time as you know and i'm just trying to keep it under control without the prescript meds.
06-12-2007, 10:04 PM
Look into curcumin. It's been shown to keep people with UC in remission longer. Gingko supposedly has some positive effects as well.
As you likely know, once UC gets flared..it's near impossible to bring under control with the drugs.
06-13-2007, 06:22 AM
at swanson there is no ashibata or Reishi tea ..only caps..is there a difference you think?..(it's very cheap! ) I really need this for my parents..very interesting herbals..
06-13-2007, 08:05 AM
I'd be interested in hearing how these capsules work for you or your parents. I have seen ash1taba tea elsewhere, can't remember off hand. Give them a shot and report.
06-13-2007, 12:40 PM
Go forth and experiment on others and report back!
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