[jrob24]

im about to buy a huge order at nutra as soon as cycle support is in stock, but i dont have all the money in the world so was loooking to cut some corners price wise but not product wise....so i was wondering if nutra's cissus powder would be just as effective as super cissus by USPLAbS....im having problems with pain in my for arms and really need something to cure it so let me know of any reccomendations you guys have as far as cissus products go but these are the two i was looking at. if the super cissus is a lot better then i have no problem paying for it , just trying to save some bucks

[thebigt]

look into osteobolin-c by applied nutrition. im taking cissus for same reason you are looking to. osteo-c is what i choose 240 caps for a decent price. im also taking incarnate but thats a little costlier but you get beta alanine.

[john123131]

bigt always representin bro!!..love it..haha..
naw in all seriousness all are solid products...cissus is my wonder drug!
bulk is best bang for your buck, supercissus worked wel for me. Loved AN version osteobolin-c (added vit c is sweet)....and our new beta-alanine product is awesome too....Incarnate has ba and cissus. You really cant go wrong, like I said all solid products.

[thebigt]

yeah john, you dont have to say it. you're lucky you work for a company where you can hype the products without b.s. btw i was taking 3x2 of incarnate per day so i got the osteobolin to keep cissus level up and still be cost effective. now im taking 3x2 incarnate plus 3x2 osteobolin. plan on being on incarnate for 4 months. might just go for 4 months on paravol if my wife can hold up, so far she aint puttin up much of a fight.

[john123131]

I actually have been adding osteo-c to mine also this past week..i find i get elbow and should pain when i gain strength, if it wasnt for cissus my joints would be toast,

[thebigt]

you know the guys at applied nutrition used to be at usplabs. i believe the were in on the groundbreaking of cissus, so this cissus should be righteous. btw just got mine yesterday, im expecting good things stacking this with incarnate. have a drink on me john.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by thebigt

you know the guys at applied nutrition used to be at usplabs. i believe the were in on the groundbreaking of cissus, so this cissus should be righteous. btw just got mine yesterday, im expecting good things stacking this with incarnate. have a drink on me john.

THe difference now is capsule servings. You can take 3 caps of SuperCissus or 9 caps of the old Cissus usplabs formula.

Both products will ultimately give the same end result.

[jrob24]

alright awesome im still undecided i know im ordering 3 tubs of waxy maize, 1 bottle AP, tub purple wraath, 1 tub poseidon, and 1 tub of cycle support....if i go for the bulk cissus powder from nutra....how much should i take a day, since it says a serving is 1/4 teaspoon= 700 mg

[whitedevil74]

I take two servings a day, one in the morning, one at night. I have used the AN Ostebolin C product and have not noticed any difference between this and Nutra's bulk Cissus. I love Cissus, my joints love Cissus. I am going to try out Super Cissus in the future, just to see if there is any noticeable difference but the bulk stuff does me right.

[thebigt]

wd74, how much bulk cissus you dosing, how many caps of ostebolin c?

[whitedevil74]

Originally Posted by thebigt

wd74, how much bulk cissus you dosing, how many caps of ostebolin c?

I was taking 9 caps of Ostebolin C, now I take about 2 grams of Cissus a day. I measure mine out with a digital scale and my 1/4 teaspoon almost always weighs a gram.

[Sir Savage]

I think it's always important to buy the innovator's product. Nothing against other companies at all, it's just that patents don't really exist in this industry and I always like to reward the company that brought it to market.

[bLacKjAck.]

Originally Posted by Sir Savage

I think it's always important to buy the innovator's product. Nothing against other companies at all, it's just that patents don't really exist in this industry and I always like to reward the company that brought it to market.

Very very good point. I agree totally.

[thebigt]

competition is a wonderfull thing. if there were a patent on cissus can you imagine what the price would be. take a look at the phamaceutical industry. as honorable as people might try to be, greed and the almighty dollar always win. i buy whats in my best interest, if i dont look out for me who will.

[whitedevil74]

Originally Posted by thebigt

competition is a wonderfull thing. if there were a patent on cissus can you imagine what the price would be. take a look at the phamaceutical industry. as honorable as people might try to be, greed and the almighty dollar always win. i buy whats in my best interest, if i dont look out for me who will.

Agreed for the most part, patents are not readily available but you also don't have much government regulation either. It has its pros and cons. While it is important to support innovation, Cissus has been around for quite sometime for therapeutic purposes.

[Sir Savage]

Originally Posted by thebigt

competition is a wonderfull thing. if there were a patent on cissus can you imagine what the price would be. take a look at the phamaceutical industry. as honorable as people might try to be, greed and the almighty dollar always win. i buy whats in my best interest, if i dont look out for me who will.

I agree that competition is a wonderful thing. It keeps companies on their toes, among other things.

I think it's important to consider this, though- if you enjoy innovative products, then it is indeed in your best interest to support the innovators. Supporting companies who take the risk of bringing something new to market will ensure that they receive the cash flow to bring new and innovative things to the market in the future, as well.

Being innovative is tiresome and very risky. You pour a lot of time and money into a product, hoping that in