*THE Beta-Alanine, Carnosine Thread, Brought to you by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION*
- 07-24-2007, 11:30 PM
One article is about pre-workout nutrition, related to central fatigue. The other is.....wait for it, you're never going to guess. Beta-Alanine!!
It's a pretty cool article, as it has a section that specifically speak about the study done on our beta-alanine product, IntraXCell.
- 08-23-2007, 03:23 PM
We are pleased to announce, two more articles from us are in the September issue of Muscular Development on newsstands NOW! I have scanned just the first page of our beta-alanine article and as usual will post the full articles once the issue is off the newsstands.
Thank you for your support and keep an eye out for more articles from us in other major bb/fitness magazine throughout the course of this year.
08-23-2007, 03:31 PM
I figured I would show another page of our three page beta-alanine article, where it briefly mentions the IntraXCell study. Expect to see quite a bit more press on this study.
08-24-2007, 12:29 AM
Have you (or any other subscribers) any information on the occurance of allergys with supplementation of BA? I have never had a serious allergy until this week. Had a serious skin rash that started in my feet and moved up from there. There was swelling, burning, itchy, red bumps (like hives). Couldn't walk too well for 4 days. The doc has me on an anti-histime and cortisone cream to get things back to normal. Given BA increases histidine which is the source for histimine, I now wonder if there is a cause and effect with the supplemention and the allergy I am experiencing. I started supplementing BA 3 only weeks ago at 6-8 gms per day divided in two doses pre and post workout. No other changes in diet or anything else I can think of that may have triggered the allergy.
Any comments or experiences on the subject would be appreciated.
08-27-2007, 04:58 PM
Let me start by saying, there is no data to support that ba could cuase an allergy but I could see their being a chance is could potentiate an underlying or current allergy. Mainly this could occur through beta-alanine possibly increasing histamine release, predominantly through two ways. 1. Its ability to activate nerves that release histamine 2. Beta-alanine's ability to boost carnosine. When carnosine is broken down into beta-alanine and histidine, the histidine component can then be further broken down into histamine.
On the other side, beta-alanine can combine with histamine to form a carnosine analog called carcinine and lesson the activity of histamine(a good thing).
Since you asked and for what it's is worth. There has been NO anecdotal feedback with people telling us they have had a problem of this nature, since IntraXCell was launched back in 2006.
Lastly, if you decide to stay on ba, I would lower your dose into the 4-5g range max, as the highest dose used in the research is 6.4g's. And it's very obvious when looking at ending carnosine concentrations, even going this high only increases carnosine concentrations faster in the first month than 3.2g and just barley more so then the 4-5g range. By month 2-3 and onward, no difference when compared to the 4-5g range. We suggest people look at the 6.4g dose as a OPTIONAL 2 week loading phase, not as a optimal maintenance dose beyond the first month.
I will continue to look further for more information, but for now, all I can say is, I wouldn't rule out the potential that beta-alanine could aggravate individuals with existing allergies.
08-27-2007, 11:45 PM
09-14-2007, 12:00 AM
09-14-2007, 09:25 PM
Excellent thread. I've got some BA on the way. Not yours but just some bulk stuff. I'm looking forward to trying it out along with citrulline malate. It's probably going to taste nasty but that's why I have a capping machine
09-14-2007, 10:53 PM
09-15-2007, 05:01 PM
09-15-2007, 05:02 PM
09-15-2007, 05:19 PM
09-29-2007, 03:01 PM
I just received my electronic version of Muscular Development(Nov pg190) and saw another one of our beta-alanine articles published. They actually forgot my name on the article this time, as Anssi and I collaborated on this write-up..lol But none the less, I wrote the beta-alanine section and Anssi wrote the leucine section.
This article is a head on comparison with creatine, showing their similarities and differences. As you all know, beta-alanine consistently gets touted as the next creatine for obvious reasons.
The point of this article was to show why it is often touted this way, but at the same time, also explain how this statement can be misleading if the details are not fully understood. Hopefully the intention of this article is understood and the reader realizes that beta-alanine DOES NOT replace creatine. At the same time getting the point across, that they do share many parallels, which brings about the comparison.
You all know I love beta-alanine, but I also have huge respect for creatine and do not want beta-alanine to be known as a replacement to creatine. Not only would it be inaccurate to market beta-alanine this way, it could also stop people from properly understanding how beta-alanine works and how different it is from creatine!
Creatine is one of my all time favorite supplements and NOTHING can ever replace it. I believe both creatine and beta-alanine to be the two most effective ergogenic aids in sports nutrition by FAR.
Beta-Alanine & PreWO articles in Muscular Development!
Our beta-alanine article- science meets real world results, in Muscular Development-
Thank you for your support and we have another VERY different article that should be out in MD next month!
12-12-2007, 09:43 PM
i jus tpicked up some beta alanine to take with dymatize expand how ever i didn't fully go through this thread before i purchased my BA. The vitamin shoppe i went to didn't not carry the particualr brand discussed through out these threads. The main diffrence is the addition of 300 mg of L-Histidine to each 1500mg of BA capsule.
Will this hinder the effects of this BA. Keep in myind i will be taking two of these pills twice a day . just curious ???
12-12-2007, 11:42 PM
12-13-2007, 04:29 PM
The more important question is , how much beta-alanine a day are you getting from this product?
Lastly, you can always request your local VitaminShoppe to carry our products. VitaminWorld already do and actually sell them for a great price.
12-14-2007, 02:21 PM
thank your for your reply its nice to see a new comer is able to get a response from a seemingly well educated individual on this subject .
Each pill is 1500mg BA and 300 L-Histidine i take four pills a day
Two pills 30 min before i work out and then two 6 hours later as directed by the maker. so i get a total of 6g a day of ba and 1200mg of hitidine a day. wasn't a bad price 24.99 but I defenately will try your product the next go round. and possibly tell you the difference i have noticed.
12-14-2007, 02:26 PM
12-14-2007, 02:27 PM
12-15-2007, 07:48 AM
Some awesome info here. Looks like I have found something to take with my Xtend. This will be in my next order at NP fo sho. Question though. I have tried creatine several times in the past and I have come to the conclusion that I do not respond to it like most others do (at all). Have you ever heard of BA non responders?
12-15-2007, 08:06 AM
01-04-2008, 09:46 PM
i think there was a mix up by me reading the lable, but i was taking muscle blast elite series which had 1500 mg per "serving" which was two pills and suggested use was 2 servings a day. i have now started taking H+ blocker though am not sure if i really enjoy the product. Could you shin some light on the differences between H+ Blocker and intraxcell ??
i am ordering the intraxcell this time around but i was curious if i could take it with noxplode ? i know the studies show it is safe to take with creatine. So far with my experince with creatine cell mass and noxplode together have probably worked the best.
though this cycle of expand i am using now for the first time is doing wonders.
Any who, i was considering taking yoru product with the two BSN products noxplode and cellmass because these products work well( and work well for mein the past) have one several awards for best muscle building product and best creatine at least on bodybuilding.com
02-21-2008, 02:33 AM
In this months issue of MD(March, pg 178), we collaborated in witting a review of a recent beta-alanine research study. Additionally, the IntraXCell study is mentioned, as both our study and the one reviewed both used 400m sprints as one of the testing protocols.
02-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Concerning Beta Alanine, Lactic Acid, and HGH
This discussion is taken from another forum and may be of interest.
02-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Don't miss out on the next deal:http://pescience.com/insider
Protein Backed by Science: http://selectprotein.com
Similar Forum Threads
- By roblasane in forum Supplement LogsReplies: 64Last Post: 06-22-2014, 12:27 PM
- By ManBeast in forum Cycle InfoReplies: 134Last Post: 04-25-2012, 01:36 PM
- By Army Guy in forum LG SciencesReplies: 10Last Post: 06-06-2010, 08:43 PM
- By Resolve in forum Supplement LogsReplies: 62Last Post: 12-26-2009, 01:02 PM
- By SilentBob187 in forum Supplement LogsReplies: 110Last Post: 05-06-2008, 03:53 PM