Best for holding on to muscles during a cut
- 04-15-2007, 03:55 PM
- 04-15-2007, 04:09 PM
I would vote for cissus even tho it is not on there. It blocks cortisol wonderfully and the joint relief is great with the slight anabolic punch (prolly due to the previously mentioned cort blocking though). I got heart palapatations from retain so that makes cissus even more attractive to me since it gives me no sides at all.
- 04-15-2007, 07:05 PM
04-15-2007, 07:13 PM
04-15-2007, 07:30 PM
04-15-2007, 08:17 PM
04-15-2007, 08:19 PM
04-15-2007, 08:30 PM
If you buy ecdy or turk in bulk, and cap it yourself, it's more cost-efficient. Many of the products in the 90's were, in my opinion, underdosed. There's also an oral bioavailability factor, is greatly increased with the addition of piperidine.
I'm currently cutting, using turkesterone (2%) @ 3g ED. I'm a firm believer that ecdysteroids are underrated.
04-15-2007, 08:40 PM
I would vote for BCAAs but it is not there.
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04-15-2007, 08:56 PM
04-15-2007, 09:36 PM
I'm going to be using thyrotabs and during the last 2 or 3 weeks I'm going to be running clen along with it. I don't want to use any anabolics as I'm planning on running halodrol and MTRN directly after.. Does anyone suggest something to run with thyrotabs and clen to prevent muscle catabolism,?
04-15-2007, 09:53 PM
04-15-2007, 10:33 PM
BCAAs FTW! I have been cutting for 2.5 weeks while dosing Excell at about 6 scoops per day. I have stayed the same weight and dropped 1% BF.
04-16-2007, 09:44 AM
20% Turkesterone in Stock
That strong of an extract would seem ideal for cutting maintainence.
Of the products listed I would say both the NHA stack and bcaa's are solid.
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04-16-2007, 09:52 AM
04-16-2007, 09:57 AM
Forskolin is great.
PowerFULL is a great HGH/testostoreone/anabolic boosting formula on the planet.
Anabolic Pump will allow you to increase carbohydrates while dieting.
Super Cissus is a potent anti catabolic along with being the best Joint injury prevention supplement in the world.
Hmmm maybe a AP/PowerFULL/Super Cissus stack sale?
04-16-2007, 10:00 AM
04-16-2007, 10:00 AM
04-16-2007, 12:01 PM
I might be a little biased but Leviathan is designed specifically for this purpose and so far the product logs speak for themselves.
04-16-2007, 12:15 PM
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04-16-2007, 12:54 PM
04-16-2007, 01:13 PM
04-16-2007, 01:33 PM
04-16-2007, 03:11 PM
BCAAs without a doubt. I also like to use ecdysteroids while cutting for not only the muscle preservation, but also the endurance increase and vascularity.
04-16-2007, 03:15 PM
04-16-2007, 04:13 PM
04-16-2007, 07:16 PM
04-16-2007, 08:02 PM
04-16-2007, 08:13 PM
04-16-2007, 08:18 PM
i should of put for keeping muscle while dieting.. but i did use some bulk powerfull and got stronger while cutting so thats up there to
04-17-2007, 01:54 PM
04-17-2007, 03:37 PM
I generally use BCAA's and Reduce XT (same as Lean Xtreme) during cutting, so they would get my vote.
Also, in all fairness, I havent used many of the things listed so I cant speak against them; just never used them so cant speak for them either.
Honorable mention - used X Factor one time during cutting and was very pleased.
04-17-2007, 03:39 PM
04-17-2007, 07:35 PM
BCAAs would be my fist choice (personally I don't cut without BCAAs).
I've used both E-BOl and Hyperdrol/Mass FX and thought each worked well. The problem with Hyperdrol/Mass FX was I seemed to get a fair amount of side effects. E-BOL on the other hand is pretty much side effect free (this is the biggest plus for me as during a cut I like to limit side effects as much as possible). The only downside I could see here is some people might need to use an increased dosage.
I think XF would work great for a cut too. It can help with strength and muscle retention while aiding in fat loss via PPARs and cAMP activation. Also since you're on a lowered calorie intake b/c of cutting you're AA from food sources will most likely be lowered so IMO making AA supplementation even more beneficial. There are side effects associated with XF but I think most can be elimated with proper precautions or atleast made tolerable.
The coritsol lowering effects of retain and lean extreme should/could be helpful. I'm not sure to what extent they'll help with muscle/strength retention though.
Good luck I think retain, lean xtreme, BCAAs, and the NHA stack would all help with your goals.
04-17-2007, 11:56 PM
04-18-2007, 06:54 AM
Bcaas would be an great choice. Also if you're cutting, there is some evidence that TTA has the ability to preserve lean mass and help with lean gains.. as well as of course, its primary role of being very a potent fat burner.
04-18-2007, 07:12 AM
04-18-2007, 09:17 AM
04-18-2007, 02:35 PM
My next cutting stack:
Glutamine ( I got a big jug free from work )
low dosed fish oil
Thyrotabs (might use the last 4 weeks depending on progress)
I have high hopes for this stack
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