Poll: What supp/

Best for holding on to muscles during a cut

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  1. Best for holding on to muscles during a cut


    I was looking at a post by DR. Nick and it got me wondering. What everyone thought was the best supp for holding on to muscle will decreasing BF?
    Also why do you think your choice would be the best one?


  2. I would vote for cissus even tho it is not on there. It blocks cortisol wonderfully and the joint relief is great with the slight anabolic punch (prolly due to the previously mentioned cort blocking though). I got heart palapatations from retain so that makes cissus even more attractive to me since it gives me no sides at all.

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  4. ..I would also add BCAA's man.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    ..I would also add BCAA's man.
    I second that notion. And would also like to add ecdysteroids as well.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I second that notion. And would also like to add ecdysteroids as well.

    ecdysteroids. Really? I recall Sytrax coming out with this stuff in the late 90's. Everyone thought it would take buckets load of it just to have a small positive impact.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by LCSULLA View Post
    ecdysteroids. Really? I recall Sytrax coming out with this stuff in the late 90's. Everyone thought it would take buckets load of it just to have a small positive impact.
    I have tried many ecdy products, and have not found one that is beneficial cost-benefit ratio, but some seem to like e-bol on a cut..

  8. If you buy ecdy or turk in bulk, and cap it yourself, it's more cost-efficient. Many of the products in the 90's were, in my opinion, underdosed. There's also an oral bioavailability factor, is greatly increased with the addition of piperidine.

    I'm currently cutting, using turkesterone (2%) @ 3g ED. I'm a firm believer that ecdysteroids are underrated.
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  9. I would vote for BCAAs but it is not there.


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  10. Arrgghh! You guys are killing me...

  11. I'm going to be using thyrotabs and during the last 2 or 3 weeks I'm going to be running clen along with it. I don't want to use any anabolics as I'm planning on running halodrol and MTRN directly after.. Does anyone suggest something to run with thyrotabs and clen to prevent muscle catabolism,?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    I would vote for BCAAs but it is not there.


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    Ditto, but of the ones listed I really liked the NHA, great for a recomp type regimen.

  13. BCAAs FTW! I have been cutting for 2.5 weeks while dosing Excell at about 6 scoops per day. I have stayed the same weight and dropped 1% BF.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    If you buy ecdy or turk in bulk, and cap it yourself, it's more cost-efficient. Many of the products in the 90's were, in my opinion, underdosed. There's also an oral bioavailability factor, is greatly increased with the addition of piperidine.

    I'm currently cutting, using turkesterone (2%) @ 3g ED. I'm a firm believer that ecdysteroids are underrated.
    Sinner, if you like the ecdy check out this thread:20% Turkesterone in Stock

    That strong of an extract would seem ideal for cutting maintainence.

    Of the products listed I would say both the NHA stack and bcaa's are solid.
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    Forskolin is great.

    PowerFULL is a great HGH/testostoreone/anabolic boosting formula on the planet.

    Anabolic Pump will allow you to increase carbohydrates while dieting.

    Super Cissus is a potent anti catabolic along with being the best Joint injury prevention supplement in the world.

    Hmmm maybe a AP/PowerFULL/Super Cissus stack sale?
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    The best scenario in dieting is getting anabolic to avoid catabolism.
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    ooooo, I just designed a supplement in my head!

  18. I might be a little biased but Leviathan is designed specifically for this purpose and so far the product logs speak for themselves.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    ooooo, I just designed a supplement in my head!
    ohhh boy!

    Can't wait to hear about this.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    ooooo, I just designed a supplement in my head!
    LOL, sounds like someone took to much C2 today.
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  21. Leviathan and BCAA's!!

  22. im going to be running JW and Clen during my cutting cycle. first time for JW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    LOL, sounds like someone took to much C2 today.
    Took the last of my cAMPH extreme with a few Extras. I usually design supplements with my heart

  24. BCAAs without a doubt. I also like to use ecdysteroids while cutting for not only the muscle preservation, but also the endurance increase and vascularity.

  25. Without a doubt BCAA's, then I would stack in a t-booster, than a cortisol blocker...

  26. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Without a doubt BCAA's, then I would stack in a t-booster, then a cortisol blocker...
    I agree. It should be a hierarchy of things.
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  27. BCAA's ftw i seriously think they r the best thing next to prohoromones/steroids

  28. I think I am starting to see a trend here....

  29. Quote Originally Posted by mattyh7688 View Post
    BCAA's ftw i seriously think they r the best thing next to prohoromones/steroids
    I wouldn't go that far, but I do use them everyday, and they definetly deserve their place in every bber's diet.

  30. i should of put for keeping muscle while dieting.. but i did use some bulk powerfull and got stronger while cutting so thats up there to

  31. Quote Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs View Post
    I might be a little biased but Leviathan is designed specifically for this purpose and so far the product logs speak for themselves.
    I just bought some Leviathan.

  32. I generally use BCAA's and Reduce XT (same as Lean Xtreme) during cutting, so they would get my vote.

    Also, in all fairness, I havent used many of the things listed so I cant speak against them; just never used them so cant speak for them either.

    Honorable mention - used X Factor one time during cutting and was very pleased.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    I just bought some Leviathan.

    awesome thanks for the support.
    let us know how things go!!

  34. BCAAs would be my fist choice (personally I don't cut without BCAAs).

    I've used both E-BOl and Hyperdrol/Mass FX and thought each worked well. The problem with Hyperdrol/Mass FX was I seemed to get a fair amount of side effects. E-BOL on the other hand is pretty much side effect free (this is the biggest plus for me as during a cut I like to limit side effects as much as possible). The only downside I could see here is some people might need to use an increased dosage.

    I think XF would work great for a cut too. It can help with strength and muscle retention while aiding in fat loss via PPARs and cAMP activation. Also since you're on a lowered calorie intake b/c of cutting you're AA from food sources will most likely be lowered so IMO making AA supplementation even more beneficial. There are side effects associated with XF but I think most can be elimated with proper precautions or atleast made tolerable.

    The coritsol lowering effects of retain and lean extreme should/could be helpful. I'm not sure to what extent they'll help with muscle/strength retention though.


    Good luck I think retain, lean xtreme, BCAAs, and the NHA stack would all help with your goals.

  35. Thanks everyone for their responses.

  36. Bcaas would be an great choice. Also if you're cutting, there is some evidence that TTA has the ability to preserve lean mass and help with lean gains.. as well as of course, its primary role of being very a potent fat burner.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by dan7681 View Post
    Good luck I think retain, lean xtreme, BCAAs, and the NHA stack would all help with your goals.
    I am rocking teh BCAA's + NHA Stack + Lean Extreme + PowerFULL + Forskolin for my muscle retaining during my current cutting cycle. Only a week and a hlaf in, but so far so good...

  38. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I am rocking teh BCAA's + NHA Stack + Lean Extreme + PowerFULL + Forskolin for my muscle retaining during my current cutting cycle. Only a week and a hlaf in, but so far so good...
    That sounds pretty good (although I'd save the PowerFULL until later)

    My next cutting stack:
    X-Factor
    DCP
    BCAAs
    Glutamine ( I got a big jug free from work )
    low dosed fish oil
    Green Mag
    Thyrotabs (might use the last 4 weeks depending on progress)

    I have high hopes for this stack
  

  
 

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