Best supplements for social anxiety?
- 08-18-2008, 11:32 PM
I deal with this type of anxiety by not being around people.I have to deal with people all day long at work.I have to be very social and I can turn that switch on while at work.Once off of work I cannot be around people for the most part.Cannot socialize at all not even with my friends.I used to be invited to go hang out and I would panic with the thought that I had to go socialize and be around people.Sucks very much.
- 08-19-2008, 01:38 PM
Part of it also truly is about not caring.. Like changing the way your mind works. Force of Green was talking about hitting rock bottom and in that situation it forces you to change. I understand what he means.. because I've hit some hard bottoms myself and every time it changed the way I thought and helped me grow mentally but it never truly "fixed" me.. Those moments of getting up from nothing only made me better. Also it's hard to not care about only one thing and care about other things. Balancing what you care about is difficult and only time and experience can change that. It's like old people .. they don't care what anyone thinks of them.. they are too old to care.. Our SA will probably not be as bad when we are in our 70's.. haha..
What is strange is anything that causing sedation or relaxation makes me more social.. Probably why ambien does that to you. I have never taken ambien but I don't want to either. I have been taking things to sleep for years. , , gaba, , , ect..
By far the best fix for social anxiety was alcohol back in the day.. Of course that lead to abuse though. I haven't touched a drink in a year.. so it's been a hard year trying to be social without any help. But I'm not going to use that crutch anymore.
have not heard of oxytocin.. however I get this homeopathic spray called rescue remedy that does help with stress and anxiety..
poor sleep almost guarantees anxiety.. It is very important to get proper sleep..ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68
WHAT has science offered?
08-19-2008, 01:48 PM
I wish I knew what I knew now and never touched anything. The wisdom i've gained would of prevented me from even touching alcohol... I feel like I could of been ok when I was younger if I understood what I needed better. Like maybe more people to talk to... better relationships.. take negativity out of my life.. but hey.. life is a lesson..
I am a big fan of 5-htp.. increasing serotonin will indirectly increase gaba. I've felt it work many times.. and Have not noticed any side effects. However.. taking 5-htp during the day time all the time will make u a little drousy and less social. It can start to make u feel lazy... so it's hard to win!
I've been taking kava kava as I've read its actually suppost to make gaba receptors more sensitive while using them at the same time. No other product which increases gaba does this.. So far so good with kava kava..
man i wish i could get my gaba receptors like they used to be.. I barely feel gaba release anymore.. Man.. I sure messed myself up more thats for sure...Thankfully i'm not getting seizures everyday as gaba is the main inhibitory neurotransmitter. .. yeah.. def wise to lay off gaba products for long term use.
ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68
WHAT has science offered?
08-19-2008, 01:58 PM
GHB was on the market a while back, but is now a class 1 controlled substance. When used properly, this is by far THE best substance for almost total disinhibition and mood. Par Deus has a big writeup on it at bodybuilding.com. He even made a product similar to it called tranquilii G. GHB = gamm hydroxy butyrate. It's like GABA, but with the hydroxy group replacing the amino group. It crosses the blood brain barrier very rapidly and must be dosed exactly.
It is also an anti-oxidant.
Freedom means nothing here.
08-19-2008, 02:50 PM
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08-19-2008, 05:13 PM
08-19-2008, 05:14 PM
GHB did help, back in the day, but then everyone started taking it at clubs and stuff and having seizures. Sucks.
08-19-2008, 05:25 PM
i too am on zoloft and xanax. xanax has been helping me sleep much better. the zoloft hasnt really kicked in yet for me to notice a change
08-19-2008, 05:34 PM
08-19-2008, 05:46 PM
The real change for me was the diet changes and supplementation I needed to fix the fat*ss I had become. I didn't realize it then, but shortly after I started eating 7-8 healthy meals per day and supplementing for workout and recovery, I finally made it back. When I started Recreate, I was very anxious, as any stims would send me into a deep anxiety back then. Now, after many months on Recreate and a Reset-AD/EndoAmp cycle, I can take almost anything and feel revved up instead of the chest-pounding, hyperventilating wreck I would have been before.
08-19-2008, 05:51 PM
08-19-2008, 06:40 PM
08-19-2008, 06:46 PM
Prescription drugs can be good (ativan, etc), but the funny thing is that I haven't had any work better for anxiety than Stablon (tianeptine - a drug only available in europe) has worked for me. An activating anxiolytic..something that not only cuts out anxiety, but works as a nootropic, brightens your mood, and activates you without stimulating or causing agitation or lethargy. In fact, after the first couple weeks, i've had no negative sides from it at all.
08-19-2008, 06:50 PM
08-19-2008, 07:00 PM
Hey, not bad! Started a new job here in nyc and getting back on track with things...been outta the loop and on the down-low for most of the summer!
i just joined a new gym here, Equinox, it's pretty damn nice and motivating me to get back on track with the routine again..
08-19-2008, 07:08 PM
08-19-2008, 07:13 PM
Yeah definately...I gave in since it's in the gf's neighbourhood (and she's a member now) and also right at Union Square, where I transfer trains to get to work..so it's definitely convenient..not to mention there's no lines for equipment! The place is never packed with people. Worth the extra money$ to me.
How's Jersey treating you? I'm consulting for my company over in jersey city at exchange place atm.
08-19-2008, 07:18 PM
My body is tired and lately I am scrounging the bottom of the barrel for workout motivation.
Freedom means nothing here.
08-19-2008, 07:22 PM
Ah well that's good to hear things are going well..it sounds like you're definitely in a better environment now too.
This new job is draining me so I'm finding it hard to keep to a normal routine too. I'm just piecing together a new diet and routine / schedule though. Going to try a CKD + DC training for the first time...but I want to plan it out perfectly before starting so I don't get off track again...
08-19-2008, 07:25 PM
08-19-2008, 07:31 PM
Thansk I might need it lol..I think a TKD might be easier. It's when I previously tried to transition from a TKD to a CKD when I failed at both. I was holding the TKD pretty well though for a while lol.
08-19-2008, 08:14 PM
08-19-2008, 09:14 PM
GHB is a VERY mistreated compound. On paper AND in research, it's too good to be true. In this case, LITERALLY, too much of this good thing is NOT good. Taken by itself, with no other contradicting substances, a healthy person/subject would have a very hard time dying from an overdose of this compound. Many who wake up in the ER are ones that took too much and didn't tell the people he/she was with that he/she took 'g'.
All of the cases of death or harm that involved 'g' also involved other compounds. A couple of the cases involved individuals with undiagnosed epilepsy.
Freedom means nothing here.
08-19-2008, 09:27 PM
How well does the rescue remedy work? How about the Kava Kava. It's a shame because people with SAD and shyness have difficult times creating and maintaing inter personal relationships with people. It is difficult for them to just go out and have fun. Oh and if they are around someone who has a strong outgoing personality......ouch.....That just closes our walls in even more. It has been a hurdle for a long time for me and I keep seeking answers. Maybe with both of our brains we just might find the solution we can use.......
08-19-2008, 09:31 PM
All this eventually give you a bad attitude and you really just stop caring about things or people.....its a sucky trap
08-19-2008, 09:57 PM
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08-19-2008, 11:30 PM
People with anxiety disorders should also get a hormone profile checked out...low test or high estrogen can cause it. I'm doing TRT now, but whenever I did a light cycle before, any and all anxiety disappeared.
Adrenals can also be a big factor. Pregnenalone + dhea along with some phosphatidylserine can help a lot.
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