Ummm, for the tri-lean system. take one Venom Hyper in the morning, 2 special tactics in the morning then at night, and take 2 Lean Dreams 30 before bed. with the havoc I'm not sure how you would take it with the stack, but I have read/ heard that pulsing Havoc gives great results. Take 2 havoc 30 minutes before your workout every other day. Doing this supposedly keeps your body from shutting down, I could be wrong, but I have heard this from reliable sources