I don't post here often, but I jsut had to comment on this. Endothil does (or at least used to) provide their "study" on their website, which is where they make their claims from. If you read it, and read it carefully, you will realize that alot of people, including the original poster in this thread, are making SUBSTANTIALLY larger gains in...well...everything, than the participants in the study.
here's a post i mad on another board some time ago about the matter...
These excerpts are from the Research Summary on the product's OWN WEBSITE, so keep that in mind
the amount of weight bench
pressed increased by 10 lbs. in subjects receiving ECR’s core compound
compared to an increase of 5 lbs. in subjects receiving placebo amount of
weight leg pressed increased 70 lbs. in the experimental group versus 20 lbs. in placebo treated subjects.
It appears that the experimental group recieved a 100% upper body strength increase in comparison the placebo group and NOT in comparison to their original strength as the product write-up would lead you to believe. The same holds true for lower body strength increases.
Keep in mind that users of this product were to change their program to that described in the product info. So...radically altering your training program for a 6-week period showed a mere 10 lb increase in a 6-week time period? doesn't sound all that extraordinary to me
The treatment group experienced a significant increase in biceps circumference that was more than four times that of the placebo group, who experienced almost no increase in biceps circumference
let's do some basic math here
placebo group = near 0 increase
experimental group = 4 x placebo group
= 4 x 0
=0
In other words, both groups recieved a near zero increase in bicep circumference. Unfortunately, the summary did not provide a definition of "near zero"
There were no significant changes between the two groups in quadriceps circumference, % body fat, % lean body mass, weight, or body mass index.
I think this part pretty much speaks for itself
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-I knew this was a scam before i even started lokoing into it. the only reason i did was due to a) a stubborn exercise science teacher who couldn't find any negative information about this product, and therefore took it for face value; b) a friend who believed the stubborn exercise science teacher; and c) the fact that the product write-up in and of itself is VERY misleading. Basically, as stated in Novex Biotech's OWN product summary, one can see that this product produced near zero results for the product testers, aside from VERY modest strength increases, which can be expected when one switches up their training program
have a nice day