[srt4miller]

With me becoming a LE officer i decied that i don't want to be the smallest guy on the force. So i have been lifting for a while now and pretty much just eatting right and taking 100% Whey Pro. Shakes. I have been doing some reading and i belive that L-Glutamine is what i am going to add in next. In my reading i have found that you should take some in the moring and right after you work out Correct?? Also that any more then 10 to 15 grams aday is enought, and could cause a upset stomach. Not a big deal. Also what else is good to stack with that. I red that Creatine and L glutamine should not be taken together. Is this true? So in a nut shell just wondering what else should be taken to help build muscle?

Side note: This is what i have right now at my house:
Creatine Powder
L Glutamine 3000 caps
ON 100% Whey Protein
Omgea 3 Fish body Oils 1000

Please Help!!!!! Thanks for your time

[bLacKjAck.]

Hey bud, good to have you here at AM, welcome! It looks like you have a solid plan going there, I think you have your priorities right and in line. A lot of guys come on here and wanna swallow the whole kitchen sink the first day they decide to lift in hopes of becoming huge. For now I would say just eat a lot of food, lift heavy, and take in about 1-1/2g to 2g of protein per lb of body weight and you will grow, no doubt about it. Also make sure that you don't overtrain. I recommend taking AT LEAST 2-3 days off per week, especially for a new guy. Anyways, looks like you have a great plan set up and always know that you have all the help you need here at AM.

[Australian made]

Good advice blackjack.

Definitely keep up the protein and clean carbs and throw in the creatine you have. Keep things simple. For some reason i've seen glutamine get bagged out a lot on this site. I always thought it was meant to be a great recovery supp but personally it didn't sit well in my stomach so i woudln't know first hand. I'd say you will find plenty of info on it if you search the site.

Remember to eat as much protein as possible before relying on the shakes.

BTW FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal might come in handy if you want to really know how much cals, grams of protein etc you are consuming.

[bLacKjAck.]

To comment on the L-Glutamine. I have been supplementing Glutamine in addition to my whey shakes(which already have some in it), seemingly forever and have never noticed any ill effects. But, everyone is different man, if it is upsetting your stomach don't sweat it. It just helps me recover so much faster.

[vision]

i've been taking glutamine for about 4 years now and it definitely helps me with recovery. look at your ON 100% Whey if its the same as mine it probably has 4g of glutamine per serving so there is no need to take any more when you use whey. I take 5-6g at night before i go to sleep and i wake up a lot easier and more refreshed.

Also, whenever I am using glutamine I never get sick. I noticed this because sometimes I cycle off and if I cycle off during the winter I ALWAYS get sick less than 1 week after coming off of it.

Make sure to eat well and get a lot of sleep and you grow quickly.

[srt4miller]

Thanks guys for all your help! Glade to see that i am on the right track. I want to get huge but i know it takes time. I work out 4 or 5 days a week right now. Well I hope to learn alot about my body, and the things it needs to help heal faster, and improve on lift weights. Thanks again!

[vince spider]

good to see im not the only one who rates glutamine. proberly wont be long before the glutamine haters invade this thread quoteing pubmed studies and all that other stuff they have read out of a text book.
personally i beleave in applied kwowledge , trying different sups and finding out what works for you

[strester]

Originally Posted by vince spider

good to see im not the only one who rates glutamine. proberly wont be long before the glutamine haters invade this thread quoteing pubmed studies and all that other stuff they have read out of a text book.
personally i beleave in applied kwowledge , trying different sups and finding out what works for you

amen to that ... another glutamine user here as well

[live4fitness]

Originally Posted by vision

Also, whenever I am using glutamine I never get sick. I noticed this because sometimes I cycle off and if I cycle off during the winter I ALWAYS get sick less than 1 week after coming off of it.

Great info.

[gdbear65]

Glutamine and creatine do not compete for absorption or transport mechanisms. It is the most abundant amino in the body - it primarily supports the immune system and the digestive tract. Intense lifting can deplete your stores, so it's a good idea to supplement above and beyond what you'll get from whey protein. Yes there's a fair amount in whey, but it occurs naturally. I prefer glutamine peptides to l-glutamine - peptides release a slow steady trickle of glutamine into your system

[srt4miller]

Originally Posted by gdbear65

Glutamine and creatine do not compete for absorption or transport mechanisms. It is the most abundant amino in the body - it primarily supports the immune system and the digestive tract. Intense lifting can deplete your stores, so it's a good idea to supplement above and beyond what you'll get from whey protein. Yes there's a fair amount in whey, but it occurs naturally. I prefer glutamine peptides to l-glutamine - peptides release a slow steady trickle of glutamine into your system

Hey thanks for the info!!! When i run out of my l-glut i will have to try what you take! Thanks again everyone!

[jmh80]

Glutamine is worthless.

Vince - my applied knowledge is that glutamine (be it L or peptide form) has not done sh*t for me. I took quite a bit of it - 2 kilo's or so I'd say. The PubMed Studies back that up.

Believe what you want to believe.


Bottom line - spend your hard earned cash on something else and get enough protein daily - that will take care of any glutamine needs (unless you are a burn victim).

[NO HYPE]

Originally Posted by jmh80

"Glutamine is worthless." "Believe what you want to believe."

.... WORD jmh80!

With the exception of sepsis, gastrointestinal disorders, and recovery from trauma/surgery....

Since glutamine is the most abundant amino acid within us (prior to supplementation), supplemental glutamine is VERY much limited in it's availability for physiological uptake, and so many people out there are simply pissing their money away.

It's already synthesized within the body in large amounts, found in food, and....

found in significant amounts within a protein shake.

In an average 50 gram protein shake, there's about 4.5+ grams of glutamine. So for a 150 lb individual at 2 protein shakes a day, that's around 9-10 grams of supplemental glutamine, on top of what is already being produced endogenously.

In terms of glutamine intake via diet.... in healthy adults it has been estimated to be around 5 grams per day (1). Foods such as meat, fish, dairy products, eggs, beans, cabbage, spinach, parsley, beets, ect. are all common sources. A single 3-oz serving of meat contains around 3-4 grams of glutamine. (2)

(1) Glutamine in parenteral nutrition: more food for thought -- ELIA 45 (1): 6 -- Gut

(2) glutamine: Definition and Much More from Answers.com

[vince spider]

the gluatamine bashers have invaded this thread

[NO HYPE]

Originally Posted by vince spider

the gluatamine bashers have invaded this thread

Glutamine basher?

.... nah, just speaking of the truth.

[Jayhawkk]

It comes down to making your own decision. Basically, for what it does I could either save that money or spend it elsewhere in supps that work more efficiently. Placebo works well too. What you feel vs. what is actually happening could be very two different things.

If you're happy taking glut. then by all means take it.

[waimoku]

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