[CryingEmo]

What are peoples opinions on biotest's products in general?


How about Surge?


I have used it before with decent results when using it PWO.



I have, however, read some of bobo's comments relating to PW nutrition, in that, slow carbs like oatmeal where actually better than fast. Is that true?

[Blutarski]

Biotest gets bashed alot for overhyping stuff but they do have some good products. Low carb Grow/Met Drive, Flameout, Surge. Surge is too damn sweet for me no way I could drink it during a hard workout. I'm with Bobo on the slow release carbs but alot of people think otherwise. Just from a general health point of view, if I get 10% less effective recovery by eating something good for me (oats) vs a bunch of sugar (dextrose/malto/etc) I'll take the long term benefits over the short term. Vanilla whey isolate/gatorade/BCAA mix is a good alternative to Surge. Cheaper and tastes like a dreamsicle.

[heavyduty]

Biotest gets bashed alot for overhyping stuff but they do have some good products. Low carb Grow/Met Drive, Flameout, Surge. Surge is too damn sweet for me no way I could drink it during a hard workout. I'm with Bobo on the slow release carbs but alot of people think otherwise. Just from a general health point of view, if I get 10% less effective recovery by eating something good for me (oats) vs a bunch of sugar (dextrose/malto/etc) I'll take the long term benefits over the short term. Vanilla whey isolate/gatorade/BCAA mix is a good alternative to Surge. Cheaper and tastes like a dreamsicle.

Im sorry but it seemed as if you just contradicted yourself, you made such a good point about complex carbs but then you drink gatorade?

[Blutarski]

Im sorry but it seemed as if you just contradicted yourself, you made such a good point about complex carbs but then you drink gatorade?

Good point. I was just giving an example to anyone wanting fast acting carbs and wanting to save some money. I'm a steel cut oats/AI Isolate guy all the way.

[heavyduty]

Good point. I was just giving an example to anyone wanting fast acting carbs and wanting to save some money. I'm a steel cut oats/AI Isolate guy all the way.

Yes same here, didnt mean to sound like a **** BTW

[heavyduty]

sorry didnt know you couldn't say that.

[CHAPS]

I'm switchin over to oats once i finish up my surge, i think it would be very beneficial on a cut.

[CryingEmo]

What about on an A.A.S. cycle?

You'd think you'd want the fast carbs then?