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Is this brand okay?
no link- Optimum nutrition fish oil
no link- Optimum nutrition fish oil
This has the same profil than ON but this one is $17 for 120 caps and ON is less than $3 for 100.I like Black Star Labs Version and NOW's EPA/DEA
https://www.blackstarlabs.com/blackstarlabs_old/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=34&products_id=379
1. ON is a damn reputable company.ON is not the best. I will not get in to it but you want to trust a reputable company with published studies. If you don't think so I will make fish oil and sell it to you for dirt cheep.
The different types of Omega 3 Fish Oil
Cod liver oil
Is apparently what our Grandmas used to give us, though thankfully mine wasn't so kind.
It is still around, and it does contain some EPA and DHA, but it also contains the most contaminants and it's not really what us Zoners are referring to when we talk about fish oil. The following oils taken from the muscles of certain dark fleshed fishes are...
Health Food Grade fish oil
Is the commonest fish oil and typically contains 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA per 1 gram capsule. Some include a little vitamin E - enough to act as a preservative but not enough to be a supplement.
Molecularly Distilled fish oil
Is oil that has been through an extra cleansing process thus contains less impurities. It generally contains similar concentrations of EPA and DHA to health grade oil. "Molecularly distilled" or "undergoes distillation" should be somewhere on the label.
Pharmaceutical Grade or Ultra Refined fish oil
Is oil concentrated and purified by an even more sophisticated distillation process and is the cleanest oil available. It typically contains 400mg of EPA and 200mg of DHA per 1 gram capsule. It's also available as a liquid.
It's a lot more expensive than health grade oil, but being more concentrated we don't need as much, which helps a bit.
what i was thinking...I never realized how cheap ON's fish oils were until i ran out and went to buy some non ON fish oilThis has the same profil than ON but this one is $17 for 120 caps and ON is less than $3 for 100.
Define better quality.There are better quality out there but for the price they are not too shabby. Both the fish oil and flax seed oil are fine.
1. ON is a damn reputable company.
2. I agree with looking to clinical research, but trials performed with X dose of EPA and Y dose of DHA will apply to any brand of fish oil, so long as it also provides X dose of EPA and Y dose of DHA.
3. There isn't a lot of variation in the quality of fish oil. How do I know? My supplement company released a product containing Omega-3 fish oil about a year ago. We analyzed the EPA and DHA content of fish oils from numerous overseas and domestic suppliers. You know what? Just about all met their label claims, meaning beyond the variation in percentages of EPA and DHA there isn't a lot of variation in the quality of fish oil. Any brand will work.
No brand of fish oil is "the best", unless you are looking for a very specific and unusual ratio of EPA-to-DHA. Most brands contain a 2:1 or 3:2 ratio, which is perfectly suited for our purposes, making no brand "better" or "worse", only more or less expensive.
If the studies are truly only relevant to that specific product, then yes. But with fish oil and its active components, EPA and DHA, you already have a tremendous body of research that can be applied generally to all fish oil products containing similar doses of EPA and DHA. There are dozens (if not hundreds) of published studies proving the benefits of fish oil for all sorts of issues (mental health, joints, weight loss, cardiovascular and cholesterol, etc). Most of these studies used the 3-2 or 2-1 ratio of EPA-DHA commonly found in most fish oils. As such, the important consideration is not which specific brand of fish oil you buy, but that you're taking fish oil in the doses that have been clinically demonstrated for the particular benefit you're seeking.Since you agree with me that there should be clinical research on a product, would I be correct to say that a product with published studies would best suit the boards needs?
If the studies are truly only relevant to that specific product, then yes. But with fish oil and its active components, EPA and DHA, you already have a tremendous body of research that can be applied generally to all fish oil products containing similar doses of EPA and DHA. There are dozens (if not hundreds) of published studies proving the benefits of fish oil for all sorts of issues (mental health, joints, weight loss, cardiovascular and cholesterol, etc). Most of these studies used the 3-2 or 2-1 ratio of EPA-DHA commonly found in most fish oils. As such, the important consideration is not which specific brand of fish oil you buy, but that you're taking fish oil in the doses that have been clinically demonstrated for the particular benefit you're seeking.
Provide a reference for the study and I'll take a look.
You're not really listening to what I'm saying here. Yes, of course, it's always preferable to have a published study performed with the actual, specific product. But when it comes to fish oil, it simply doesn't matter that much, because:Would it be safe to say that a product with a published study is the best for the board compared to products with out studies on the product?
You're not really listening to what I'm saying here. Yes, of course, it's always preferable to have a published study performed with the actual, specific product. But when it comes to fish oil, it simply doesn't matter that much, because:
1) There is already a tremendous body of research performed on fish oil
2) Fish oil extracts are consistent in quality and almost always meet label claims. As such, studies performed with a specific fish oil extract can be generalized to apply to all brands of fish oil extract (provided that the doses of EPA-DHA are comparable to those used in the studies).
Other than the ratio of EPA-to-DHA, there simply isn't much difference between different brands of fish oil (and most contain similar ratios of EPA-to-DHA as well). You can buy fish oil from any source, and as long as you are taking equivalent doses of Omega-3s, the results will be the same. Research that applies to one generally applies to all.
As I said, if you provide me with a specific study, I'll take a look. Other than that, the one that is "best for the board" is the one that provides the most Omega-3s at the cheapest price (which is definitely NOT the OmegaGuard that you mentioned).
For fish oil, yes, price should generally be the determining factor. To explain...Based on what you just said money is the issue to you, am I correct TeamSavage?
I use NOWs product and it seems to be about the best quality for the price...As long as there are at least 300mg of omega 3 per softgel, it is ok. I think that the NOW brand would be cheaper and is just as good of a product.
I would have to disagree with you on that. Depending on the process of distillation reveals how bioavailable and clean the product is. There is no way you will get the same quality fish oil from solvent-refined as you will with triple molecular distillation. With triple molecular distillation, you get improved viscosity, better temperature stability, improved oxidation resistance, lower carbon residue, higher boiling points, and lower vapour pressures. Fish oil may be the same before refining, but not after, doesn't that make sense?So yes, for fish oil, it basically boils down to money. Why spend $30 for a month supply when you can spend $3 and get the same benefits?
Thats interesting infomation, where can I read about that?I would have to disagree with you on that. Depending on the process of distillation reveals how bioavailable and clean the product is. There is no way you will get the same quality fish oil from solvent-refined as you will with triple molecular distillation. With triple molecular distillation, you get improved viscosity, better temperature stability, improved oxidation resistance, lower carbon residue, higher boiling points, and lower vapour pressures. Fish oil may be the same before refining, but not after, doesn't that make sense?
I'm looking to start taking fish oil... Are the ON and Now brands real fishy tasting? I'd definitely prefer a non fishy taste... Thx!I work at the vitamin shoppe and sometimes we have rep copanies come in and discuss supplements, nutrition, etc... Fish oil isn't suppose to have that smelly fish smell. If it does that means it's not good quality Fish Oil.. Just think would you buy smelly fish at the supermarket?! Usually it means it's bad if it smells.
Enzymatic Therapy is a really good brand of fish oil
i would suggest Pure Omega 3 by PBL. not for sure but it used to be at np.ON is a great company, but I wouldnt use there fish oil, not because its not good, but theres better fish oil out there.
You want something that contains about 10-30iu of natural vitamin e, sometimes it will only be listed in the small print that it contains vitamin e and not in active ingrediants.
You want one that goes through distilation, and also one with atleast 300mg of omega 3 per gram. Prefebly although not so importantly, with a EPA/DHA ratio of 1.5/1 wich is the natural ratio.
Well EPA and DHA are the primary Omega-3's in fish oil, so the amount of EPA+DHA is roughly equivalent to the amount of Omega-3's you're getting. In other words, in a typical 1000mg fish oil capsule, most of the oil isn't Omega-3. There might only be 400mg of Omega-3, of which 240mg might me EPA and 120mg might be DHA (just to give an example).I think most fish oils now days are pretty decent. I think the most important part isn't necessarily how many grams of Omega 3's you are getting, but how much EPA/DHA you are getting. I recently bought a bottle of Carlson's 17 oz Fish Oil. Might go for high potency EPA/DHA pills after this, merely for convenience. But a bottle is generally much more concentrated, typical at a better price. Carlson's is often mentioned as a quality fish oil source.
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