Ok, I've read a million posts about stacking TRN with Zol (maybe not that many), but I was considering using it as part of a cutting stack along with a really high protein diet (around 250g for my 190lbs) and below maintenance cals to really cut up and harden without too much gain. I don't want to put on much more muscle – 5-8lb. would be cool - just really want to drop bodyfat, which I've read this is good for. I did a 6 week cycle of Zol (at 100/150/150/150/150/200) and put on like 9lb. and Zol is supposed to be low gain (I am NOT a hard gainer, I guess), so I don’t want to go nuts here. Anybody know how good it is as a standalone ph for cutting?
I want to stack it with a few non-ph elements for added effectiveness: Dicana, which I've used twice at double dose (6 per day) for 4 week periods with great results and no sides besides a few sweaty nights at first, and maybe Zappatite or Venom for app. control (probably Venom which I used on Dicana, since you'd also get the thermogenic effects, and it REALLY curbed my appetite).
The idea is this:
Wk. 1
TRN - 2mg (1 cap)
Dicana - 6 caps
Venom - 1 cap
Wks. 2-4
TRN - 4mg (2 cap)
Dicana - 6 caps
Venom - 1 cap
Wks. 5-8 are PCT***:
Wk. 5
Nolva 40mg
Clomid 100mg
6-oxo 600mg
Wk. 6
Nolva 40mg
Clomid 100mg
6-oxo 600mg
Wk. 7
Nolva 20mg
Clomid 75mg
6-oxo 300mg
Wk. 8
Nolva 20mg
Clomid 75mg
6-oxo 300mg
***Now, this is not the PCT I ran after my 6 week Zol cycle. I ran your standard Nolva (40/30/20/10), R-XT (100/75/50/25 I think), but experienced more shutdown than I was comfortable with down south, so I figured I'd try this one. Maybe it's overkill, I don’t know. I priced it and can get the whole PCT going for around $160, over 2 seperate purchases, and already did the initial investment, so one $80 one to go. Better safe than weak or limp.
I also considered adding a 5th week on, but ramping back down to 2mg. Good idea? Bad? Not worth it? I notice no one seems to ramp down with TRN, it was just a thought, since I’m opting to stay at 4mg for the 4th week instead of going up to 6mg.
Naturally, this is run with liver support (Perfect Cycle) beginning 2 weeks out, and BP control (which I've gotten used to taking regularly anyway - Michael's BP control - I've been at like 72 diastolic ever since I got on it, even while on EC!). I’m already on Propecia as it is, so hopefully the hair loss angle is covered. Regarding libido, I am usually one sick individual, but you can never be too careful in this department as far as I'm concerned, so I’ll use Ejaculoid, which kicks total ass. 1 question here – I’ve read that people have big-league libido while on as long as they stay under the 6 mg. mark which is exactly what I’m planning, so I figured I’d run the ’Loid during PCT, but I have no problem using it on cycle just in case. Anyone with experience here, let me know what you think.
Thoughts, questions, concerns, suggestions? Please let me know. I’ve done a ton of reading, this is the plan, but input is always good.
I want to stack it with a few non-ph elements for added effectiveness: Dicana, which I've used twice at double dose (6 per day) for 4 week periods with great results and no sides besides a few sweaty nights at first, and maybe Zappatite or Venom for app. control (probably Venom which I used on Dicana, since you'd also get the thermogenic effects, and it REALLY curbed my appetite).
The idea is this:
Wk. 1
TRN - 2mg (1 cap)
Dicana - 6 caps
Venom - 1 cap
Wks. 2-4
TRN - 4mg (2 cap)
Dicana - 6 caps
Venom - 1 cap
Wks. 5-8 are PCT***:
Wk. 5
Nolva 40mg
Clomid 100mg
6-oxo 600mg
Wk. 6
Nolva 40mg
Clomid 100mg
6-oxo 600mg
Wk. 7
Nolva 20mg
Clomid 75mg
6-oxo 300mg
Wk. 8
Nolva 20mg
Clomid 75mg
6-oxo 300mg
***Now, this is not the PCT I ran after my 6 week Zol cycle. I ran your standard Nolva (40/30/20/10), R-XT (100/75/50/25 I think), but experienced more shutdown than I was comfortable with down south, so I figured I'd try this one. Maybe it's overkill, I don’t know. I priced it and can get the whole PCT going for around $160, over 2 seperate purchases, and already did the initial investment, so one $80 one to go. Better safe than weak or limp.
I also considered adding a 5th week on, but ramping back down to 2mg. Good idea? Bad? Not worth it? I notice no one seems to ramp down with TRN, it was just a thought, since I’m opting to stay at 4mg for the 4th week instead of going up to 6mg.
Naturally, this is run with liver support (Perfect Cycle) beginning 2 weeks out, and BP control (which I've gotten used to taking regularly anyway - Michael's BP control - I've been at like 72 diastolic ever since I got on it, even while on EC!). I’m already on Propecia as it is, so hopefully the hair loss angle is covered. Regarding libido, I am usually one sick individual, but you can never be too careful in this department as far as I'm concerned, so I’ll use Ejaculoid, which kicks total ass. 1 question here – I’ve read that people have big-league libido while on as long as they stay under the 6 mg. mark which is exactly what I’m planning, so I figured I’d run the ’Loid during PCT, but I have no problem using it on cycle just in case. Anyone with experience here, let me know what you think.
Thoughts, questions, concerns, suggestions? Please let me know. I’ve done a ton of reading, this is the plan, but input is always good.