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    Transdermal Ecdy thoughts


    I have been searching the last hour and havent found much to be helpful on this so i figured to start a thread.

    Ok i have used Legal Gears X-factor which for the most part is an ecdy trandermal. It works well but is pricey. I was wondering what would be a good amount of ECDY to add to an 8oz bottle of penetrate (board sponser freindly lol)

    Legal Gears is a blend so I dont know what a good dose would be.......Most people report good gains anywhere from 1500mg~5000mg daily when taken oraly..

    Any suggestions

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    What are u so lost about
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    I never did get into the transdermals. Too unfriendly to my work hours and such...I think BV and B5150 are transdermal knowledgable. i'll send em this way.
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    I think the most important thing you need to know is the molecular weight. The product X you are referring too didn't do particularly well either though
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    Hey whats up Distilled Water!

    Can you link me to that Legal Gears product? Ive never heard of it. Transdermal ECDY sounds interesting.

    Generally, you want your compound to have a molecular weight of less than 500 (you'll get 400 or 500 depending on where you read) in order to be able to permeate through the skin with the right carrier matrix.

    I found this site while researching your question, it looks like a really good resource for anyone interested in ecdysteroids.

    http://ecdybase.org/index.php?row=352&action=browse

    It looks like most ECDY's are right around 400 or a little above, which would make them decent candidates for transdermal absorbption. Id go right with turkesterone if you can, it seems to be the best ECDY for bodybuilding, AFAIK. But then again, my knowledge of ECDY's isnt that deep. 20-Hydroxyecdysone would also be a good choice - that's the main compound in Scivation Anagen, and that product seems to work well.

    You might also want to check out this page on transdermal drug delivery technology:

    Transdermal Drug Delivery: PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE -- Scheindlin 4 (6): 308 -- Molecular Interventions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    Ok i have used Legal Gears X-factor which for the most part is an ecdy trandermal.
    You mean Product X... not to be confused with a highly effective product like MN's X-Factor.

    Everything I remember about the board reviews of Product-X was that it straight up sucked.
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    You mean Product X... not to be confused with a highly effective product like MN's X-Factor.
    LOL that's not a product plug is it bro? I thought he was misquoted there...the only X-Factor I know of is Molecular Nutrition. And yes it does seem to be quite effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Hey whats up Distilled Water!

    Can you link me to that Legal Gears product? Ive never heard of it. Transdermal ECDY sounds interesting.

    Generally, you want your compound to have a molecular weight of less than 500 (you'll get 400 or 500 depending on where you read) in order to be able to permeate through the skin with the right carrier matrix.

    I found this site while researching your question, it looks like a really good resource for anyone interested in ecdysteroids.

    http://ecdybase.org/index.php?row=352&action=browse

    It looks like most ECDY's are right around 400 or a little above, which would make them decent candidates for transdermal absorbption. Id go right with turkesterone if you can, it seems to be the best ECDY for bodybuilding, AFAIK. But then again, my knowledge of ECDY's isnt that deep. 20-Hydroxyecdysone would also be a good choice - that's the main compound in Scivation Anagen, and that product seems to work well.

    You might also want to check out this page on transdermal drug delivery technology:

    Transdermal Drug Delivery: PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE -- Scheindlin 4 (6): 308 -- Molecular Interventions

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    Heres the link to it NutraPlanet.com: Product X Dermasize (240 ml) By Legal Gear

    Good transdermal articles thanks alot....

    I think I will go with the transdermal Turkesterone that seems the most appealing because U make mention of Scivation Anagen which i was looking at trying. I think nutra planet has that and Fenotest for like $19.99 plus their 12% off christmas special I think Ill get a bottle or 2.

    So these are my calculations and please correct me if im wrong.......if I had a 8 oz. bottle of Penetrate i would add 20 grams Turk to it correct, that seems like its alot????
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    I would go with more like 15 grams for the 8 oz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water
    What are u so lost about
    I was confused by the X-factor statement. As far as a transdermal ECDY, what's the benefit? Are you hoping a transdermal carrier will localize the effects of the turk? I'm very interested in hearing about your progress none the less. Are you planning on keeping a log?
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    Keep in mind that you are talking about PLANT material. You also need to look at solubility.

    I can get a high potency Ecdy product, and we are still trying to nail that 20% turk, but let me do some searching on MW and solubility of ecdy.
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    Product X

    looks like an interesting product. The main ingredient in Bile acid. It does suggest that ECDY has poor oral absorption maybe transdermal will be beneficial.
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    If I am not mistaken, much like Resveratrol, it is not a question of oral absoprtion, but short half life.

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    Keep in mind that you are talking about PLANT material. You also need to look at solubility.

    I can get a high potency Ecdy product, and we are still trying to nail that 20% turk, but let me do some searching on MW and solubility of ecdy.
    That's another thing I forgot to mention. You really want to get ahold of a pure extract if you can...you're going to have to bathe in transdermal carrier in order to absorb ~2g of the stuff daily

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    After considering solubility, this seems like a good idea with a very pure extract.

    Interesting.
  

  
 

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