Are there natural test boosters that give steroid like results?
- 12-02-2006, 04:55 PM
Are there natural test boosters that give steroid like results?
I'm new to the natty test boosters, so I could use some help. I've had plenty of AAS and legal prohormones experience including test, d-bol, drol, NPP, Deca, M1t, Superdrol, Phera, Mega-trn. The new designer steroids are immpressive and feel alot like the "real" stuff. My question is, are there any single products or stacks that make you feel like you're really juicing?
It's tough to gauge people's responses when their only experience with anabolics are only the natural products. People who used both illegal steroids and natural supps, post your experiences and feelings on how they are similiar or different. thanks!
- 12-03-2006, 02:49 AM
i'm a heavy anabolics user and i got quasi-steroid results from:
- the original acTivate (not the new gen)
- (as much as i hate to admit it)
granted, none of these were quite like a proper juice cycle, but they were the closest things that arent "really" hormones (debatable w/ 4oha)
12-03-2006, 04:47 AM
12-03-2006, 09:16 AM
I have had previous experiences with 1-ad and animal stak. I must say that the best natural anabolic out there was X-Factor for me. I have had better results with it that these PH products. I also tried ActivaTe as well, and I had to finish it sooner because of acne problems. I didn't tried Powerfull, so I can't comment on it. Jungle Warfare, Restore, and Alpha Drive XL are also pretty good products.
12-03-2006, 09:34 AM
Just clear this up for me...do you want to know what supplement compares to PH's in relation to raising testosterone or do you want to know what supplement compares in relation to anabolism?
I've never used any form of AAS so I cannot compare.
12-03-2006, 09:36 AM
12-03-2006, 06:24 PM
I very much like Alpaha Drive, Restore, and JW! These are all excellent products. Have not tried powerfull yet, but will here in a few days along with Rebound Reloaded and ActivaTe. Anways, I felt JW gave definately me the most "anabolism" out of these products.
12-03-2006, 07:04 PM
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12-03-2006, 07:57 PM
12-03-2006, 08:00 PM
12-04-2006, 03:28 PM
12-04-2006, 03:49 PM
You're better off doing the real deal. You at least know it works and how it works and what's in it.
You have no idea what's in these "test boosters." They can be capsules of test or something else in there...just called something else.
12-04-2006, 04:16 PM
12-04-2006, 07:01 PM
12-04-2006, 09:50 PM
12-04-2006, 10:41 PM
you know for sure, without any doubt whatsoever, what's in your gear? i certainly dont, and i use alot of the stuffOriginally Posted by Proteinpowda
i dont think it's bad form to want steroid-like effects without the sides. there are some serious downsides to steroid use....the market is managing to put out some high quality non-hormonals that are at least interesting, at most - revolutionary.
use steroids for awhile and you'll see the dark side of...um...the dark side not that i dont love em, but as a health-conscious person i too search for a suitable alternative.
it should be mentioned that the majority of the "natural test boosters" mentioned here increase natty test via negative estrogen feedback (i'm sure most of you know that), but this practice has sides of its own for sure.
12-04-2006, 11:10 PM
Which is why it's not the best practice. Sure if you want osteoperosis and corroded lipid values go for it. Not to mentioned dimished growth hormone levels....Originally Posted by same_old
12-04-2006, 11:43 PM
12-04-2006, 11:47 PM
12-04-2006, 11:48 PM
12-05-2006, 12:23 AM
i have no idea, but the new activate did nothing for me, whereas with the old 20 pills/day formula i was oily, horny and gained 5-6lbs in 3 weeks or so.Originally Posted by TeamSavage
proteinpowda - why are you here then, if steroids are so evil??
12-05-2006, 10:24 PM
The answer is no....period
What the hell is steriod like results.....for f*&$ sake either it is or it isnt.....
I have used alot products....starting from 6oxo, ultra hotter, pheraplex, emax....then on to orals turinabol, stana etc and them the IM range........
There just isnt a comparison to be made
12-05-2006, 11:08 PM
12-05-2006, 11:32 PM
12-06-2006, 01:58 AM
think what you want fellas. the guy asked for steroid and supp users to comment. i know that more than a few of us believe these non-hormonals are worth using, and provide quasi-juice effects (albeit mild juice)
12-06-2006, 02:17 AM
I don't think they're evil. They have quite a few benefical properties. People just need to know how to use them correctly.Originally Posted by same_old
The whole idea that steroids are bad is overly done.
What I am stressing here is that Decreasing estrogen levels to lower test is not the way to go about things.
Just do the real thing; stuff with research behind it and clinicial trials. Not something that meets sales quotas b/c of flowery words and has no research behind it.
Come on do you really want to be taking something when you don't know what the effects down the line are? When you hardly even know how it will effect you immedietly? Generally when somebody makes claims like these companies make we would say they're too good to be true yet a lot of you vehemently defend them.
I ask you: Why are they worth defending? A lot of them are better than the rest and we know through trial and error that some stuff works and some stuff doesn't. But effectively we're test tubes for these products.
Do you even know if these compounds are pure and un-contaminated? There are quite a few ways to test that (TLC, Melting point comparisons, etc). Do you know the quality standards are for the company? Do they run IR's and HPLC on a batch of each of their products or possibly put a tracer on the product to follow it's metabolism?
Do they have staff qualified to do this?
In most cases the answer is no.
What they do have though are a good sales team.
12-09-2006, 02:55 PM
Bro, most of these companies have a manual that's thicker than a phonebook for overseas chemical manufacturing plants with formulas that would make most chemists drop a big deuce in their pants. A decent chemist is temporarily employeed to search through compounds with possible anabolic/androgenic properties and try to logically analyze that compound with and against similar compounds with any published studies done on mice (because we're the first human subjects). After applying the scientific method to this 'new' compound, a proprietary blend is mixed in the pot in amounts that are undisclosed and this blend usually consists of crap we've already heard of and/or been using. The company offers fancy prizes for putting out the best logs because the logs like the one's here at anabolic minds are the ONLY significant, usable data that we have on the reactions of these compounds in the human body.Originally Posted by Proteinpowda
12-09-2006, 06:08 PM
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