The cutting begins Nov. 24th.

  1. The cutting begins Nov. 24th.


    After Turkey day I plan to get back on track with a fatloss diet and training program. I have lots of designers to choose from but I think I'll hold off on those for now as I don't really want to run a cycle 'till spring. I plan on running Retain and an AI since they're just collecting dust,(I have atd and Novodex xt, and I'll probably run the Novodex) and haven't decided if I'll be using a stim/thermo.
    This, to me seems to be a good stack while dieting. One concern that I have is joint pain. My joints were sore when I ran retain solo and when I ran atd solo but have not run both together. Has anyone run these two on a cut. If so what are your thoughts? Pros?? Cons??

    I tried to find some logs other than for pct and I couldnt find any.


    Thanx,
    LME


  2. GOOD LUCK!!! Have you tried Cissus for the joint pain?

    Which retain are you running? AX or ALRI?

  3. I haven't tried cissus yet, but hear it's good. I was planning on rolling with stuff that I already have but may have to get some cissus. I have 1 bottle of Powerfull and was thinking of throwing that in the mix but 1 bottle, I dont think is really enough to affect anything and only lasts like 10 days or so at the regular dose. Maybe throw it in at 1/2 dose.

    I have Anabolic Extreme Retain
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  4. does cissus work for all sorts of aches and pains?

  5. suppossed to be REALLY good on joint pain. there is some in Hyperdrol, i had an ACL replacement last October, and i am doing good. No pains!!

    So if you get it in bulk, it should help!

  6. Yeah for your joints

  7. couldn't hurt to try it. you could get a small bulk container from NP or even the USP cissus and try a cycle of it.....

  8. I might just do that

  9. well, i'll be following along.....

    so we'll see what happens!!!

  10. bump... anyone have experience using these two on a cut??? Retain and Novodex XT??

  11. I'm right behind you on the cutting. I start my pre-contest diet Dec. 1st.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by rpen22
    I'm right behind you on the cutting. I start my pre-contest diet Dec. 1st.
    Sweet, are you competing in AZ? What show are you gonna do? The one in march?

  13. Yeah, I'm doing the NPC Natural Western in March over at the Herberger Theater.

  14. That show usually has some good competition. What weight class? I may have to make it down there and rally a bro.

  15. Yeah, my training partner took the Heavyweight class this year. I'll be competing in the Teen division and then most likely the Novice Middleweight class. This will be my first show so I'm not shooting for a specific weight class, just coming in at my best, wherever that falls.

  16. Hey Leggo dont know if it will work for you but Muira Puama helps my back and I noticed yesterday on pulldowns my shoulder bothered me very little and its given me grief for almost 20yrs.


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6

  17. Hey thanks mmowry.I've heard good things about muria puama but have never tried it. Isn't it also a test booster? or am I thinking about something else

  18. Its doesnt directly increase test yet some of its extracts will give similar results as test.Also these saponins were part of the formulation for the supp PowerFull.Personally I will go without my multivitamin before MP.


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6

  19. Thanks mmowry, I'll keep that one in mind

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    Its doesnt directly increase test yet some of its extracts will give similar results as test.Also these saponins were part of the formulation for the supp PowerFull.Personally I will go without my multivitamin before MP.
    Have you also used Cissus? do you use MP in bulk? how much?

  21. I havent tried cissus yet but Im excited to try it when dsade comes out with the more concentrated extract.If he doesnt get it figured out I will eventually try the the 5%.

    I take everything that I can in bulk just wrap it in towlet paper and gulp down the hatch.The MP 10:1 2-3gm/day.After I get my strength back up I will be dosing high hopefully with the 20% Turk and Cissus to see about the anabolic aspects.


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    I havent tried cissus yet but Im excited to try it when dsade comes out with the more concentrated extract.If he doesnt get it figured out I will eventually try the the 5%.
    Good luck with that, it's out of production ;P 10% is around the corner...

  23. Well thats GOOD news and thanks for the sarcasm Ive been lacking that in my diet lately.


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6
  

  
 

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