Do you get the same effects in terms of alertness (and not being able to sleep... at least for me.) that you do when caffeine is ingested?

Depends on the carrier.
Systemic probably would but probably less efficient (don't recall oral availability of caffeine).
Targeted or site specific, no, but you get a diuretic effect; a al Lipo-Derm w/caffeine.
"He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers"
I wonder if the caffeinated soap from thinkgeek.com works![]()
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They now carry a caffeine inhaler. That would be handy to kick start my dayOriginally Posted by moklepaul![]()
Oh god, lol. That's just awesome. I just bought one, can't wait![]()
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Originally Posted by moklepaul
Hah let me know what you think! I wonder what else can be put in an inhaler![]()
I can't even find the inhaler on that site.
Aww its goneOriginally Posted by picassoI wonder if it got pulled or just sold out.
It was a joke listing![]()
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Transdermal caffiene in NP's Penetrate produces a really long lasting caffiene buzz. Awesome alertness and energy that just keep going and going..unfortunately going and going all night and I couldn't sleep for anything.
I save it for special occassions.
What dosage did you use?Originally Posted by bioman
They sell ephedrine inhalers at Wal-mart.Originally Posted by Rivet
Originally Posted by moklepaul
Really? What was the occasion? Or just no reason...
Didnt you use it for hiking or am I thinking of someone else...Originally Posted by bioman
Actually, now that I recall it was several grams of caffiene that I added to Lipoderm-Y. It wasn not in Penetrate but it would probably elicit the same effect.
I was just using it for cutting and added some more caffiene to the mix. The energy was sick, but I doubt it would last for long as you'd develope a tolerance to it quickly. Only did it for a day or two then I had to stop cause it wouldnt let me sleep.
called PrimaTine?Originally Posted by thesinner![]()
It's something like that. With Ephedrine sulfate.Originally Posted by picasso
Think I'll pick some up!
Originally Posted by thesinner
sure it's not EPINEPHRINE? what's the actual name of the product? my wife couldn't find it here in AZ in walmart but i'm sure she wasn't looking @ ingredients. thx!
I'm pretty sure they don't sell adrenaline at Wal-mart.Originally Posted by picasso
I gotta make a stop at wal-mart tomorrow, I'll make a note to look for it.