I hate being human

[Kam]

Just coming off Powerfull/cissusrx and then next was fenotest and anagen with cissusrx(no break because it's natural right). I was feeling great with some preworkout stims (R4W, Amp) and the naturals I was on. But feeling some pressure so I stopped all but multi and flax and cod liver. Just wanted to express my anger towards feeling pain and not lifting whatever I wanted plus the confidence and libido loss after being on.

Just wanted to share seeing if anyone went through this, also was on burn3d 9 caps a day. Just felt such a loss of energy and enthusiasim to go to the gym after going off. I thought there was no post cycle needed but man I was torn up. Diet was good, workout was harsh.

Went from going for 1k on leg press to 500 pounds after a couple days off.

So I'm going to build up the pieces, most of my lifts are close to what they were, but some are majorly lacking.

Your dumb friend,

Kam

ps should i try a post cycle for my wussie natural anabolics for maybe an inlarged prostate.

 

[Jayhawkk]

Natural or not you're indroducing chemicals into your body that changes the natural balance so your body always needs recovery, imho. People a lot of times don't understand the mental changes that happen as well. PCT is still a good idea and make sure your calories are still high.

 

[BigCasino]

Kam,

Hang in there man. I've never hit the sauce but I know that even just being natural, when you get sick, or get an injury severe enough to keep you out of the gym it can feel like all your hard work just went down the drain.

My mom's side of the family has horrible immune systems, a cat sneezes a mile away and I catch a cold! Obivously this is not a good thing with a hobby like lifting where you need your rested healthy body, but I get so frustrated sometimes man. Like recently, I am 250, trying to get to 275, was making nice steady progress and then I caught a real bad sinus infection. Two weeks later I was down 10lbs and my first week back into the gym sucked harder than Jenna Jameson giving me a BJ.

The point is, whether coming off a cycle or coming out of the flu as humans our lifts are probably gonna shoot down for a bit, and consequently our confidence as well. Only way to get it back up is come back with everything you got and don't let frustration overcome you

 

[rugger48]

Just coming off Powerfull/cissusrx and then next was fenotest and anagen with cissusrx(no break because it's natural right). I was feeling great with some preworkout stims (R4W, Amp) and the naturals I was on. But feeling some pressure so I stopped all but multi and flax and cod liver. Just wanted to express my anger towards feeling pain and not lifting whatever I wanted plus the confidence and libido loss after being on.

Just wanted to share seeing if anyone went through this, also was on burn3d 9 caps a day. Just felt such a loss of energy and enthusiasim to go to the gym after going off. I thought there was no post cycle needed but man I was torn up. Diet was good, workout was harsh.

Went from going for 1k on leg press to 500 pounds after a couple days off.

So I'm going to build up the pieces, most of my lifts are close to what they were, but some are majorly lacking.

Your dumb friend,

Kam

ps should i try a post cycle for my wussie natural anabolics for maybe an inlarged prostate.

I dont completely understand this post, but just cutting out supplements shouldnt have that type of impact. If supps are the only thing you have stopped then its in your head.

Edit: I see the PS now, and if thats the reason then yep i can see that now.

 

[Beowulf]

Wait, were you on any sort of AAS? That sort of drop in strength from dropping Cissus and Powerfull is highly unlikely. As BC said, it is mental, or maybe you are severely overtrained.

I don't know if AMP or that other stuff has this effect, but some stims can burn out the adrenals. That may be the reason for the lethargy. It also may not be a loss of strength as much as a lack of motivation.

 

[Work]

I don't hate being human, but am often embaressed at being human when I examine human history and what we do to each other even today. But that's another story for another day.

 

[tomall2]

Just recently I had to accept that anything close to resembling a stim was going to enlarge my prostate to the size of a softball. It was driving me crazy before I actually figured out the problem. I saw a urologist and he gave me flomax - great stuff, BTW. A couple weeks later the family doc checked the walnut and said everything was fine. She added that since I was on the flomax it better be. Just to reitterate, I have felt great with the flomax and hope to take it as long as I can. Hope this helps you out as far as the prostate thing goes. If that doesn't work, just be Superman like me - wait that was for Jay - nevermind. :lol:

 

[Jayhawkk]

Walnuts eh? Being a little bit generous with the descriptions again?

 

[tomall2]

:icon_lol: :woohoo: :icon_lol:

Just one walnut (prostate) massage, I forgot to mention the grapes getting squeezed and pressed for the hernia check.

 

[Jayhawkk]

And that's the last time I do the pre exam so you can be ready for the test. I don't care how much candy ya give me.

 

[tomall2]

But the superman thing... ahh please

 

[yeahright]

Dude, you were jacked to the gills on stims. Coming off of that is going to take some recovery:

burn3d 9 caps a day = 2847.5 mg Proprietary blend of Green Tea Extract (90% Catechins and 60% ECGC) Theobromine, Caffeine, 7-keto-DHEA-THP ether/diether Evodiamine, Hordenine, Synephrine

AMP = Geranamine - nonsense trade name for a chemical which is VERY similar to an amphetamine.

Ready4War = 300 mg caffeine, Proprietary blend containing N-acetyl L-tyrosine, DL-phenylalanine, green tea, DMAE, yohimbe, vinpocetine, huperzine A.

 

[Beowulf]

Dude, you were jacked to the gills on stims. Coming off of that is going to take some recovery:

burn3d 9 caps a day = 2847.5 mg Proprietary blend of Green Tea Extract (90% Catechins and 60% ECGC) Theobromine, Caffeine, 7-keto-DHEA-THP ether/diether Evodiamine, Hordenine, Synephrine

AMP = Geranamine - nonsense trade name for a chemical which is VERY similar to an amphetamine.

Ready4War = 300 mg caffeine, Proprietary blend containing N-acetyl L-tyrosine, DL-phenylalanine, green tea, DMAE, yohimbe, vinpocetine, huperzine A.

:jaw: That explains everything. Just look at your caffeine intake alone.

 

[machinehead]

Dude, you were jacked to the gills on stims. Coming off of that is going to take some recovery:

burn3d 9 caps a day = 2847.5 mg Proprietary blend of Green Tea Extract (90% Catechins and 60% ECGC) Theobromine, Caffeine, 7-keto-DHEA-THP ether/diether Evodiamine, Hordenine, Synephrine

AMP = Geranamine - nonsense trade name for a chemical which is VERY similar to an amphetamine.

Ready4War = 300 mg caffeine, Proprietary blend containing N-acetyl L-tyrosine, DL-phenylalanine, green tea, DMAE, yohimbe, vinpocetine, huperzine A.

I think you are confusing Burn3d from Omega with 3rd Degree Burn from Gaspari.

 

[Kam]

I think it a combo of all of them you guys are right. I was thinking it was a 40/60 stacks/stim split of the loss of power and energy.

I'm feeling a lot better now, got some milk thistle, aloe vera (drink), and prostate health from gaia herbs at whole foods which has saw palmetto,nettle root and 6 other things.

Just such a change of energy and strength I felt like half the man.

I think I'm going the rest of the week on my home made post cycle and no stims, and maybe ease into a some burn3d maybe 2x twice a day before meals only.

Thanks for everyones input, i thought the thread title would get some responses.

Any advice for a noobie besides let your body recover, I'm really making the push for that job interview in the next couple of weeks, and as i'm not so concernd about my physique as the insane amount of confidence I had in my abilities while I was at my peak. Besides eating right and increasing cardio and getting sleep any suggestions.

I would love to get back on another cycle but I really don't wanta push anything, but i want the power back.(cake and eat it 2)

Thanks guys,

Kam

 

[glg]

Well...welcome back to the real world...and yeah it can kinda suck sometimes.

Thank goodness for sex and chocolate!! LOL