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  1. 09-11-2006 07:57 PM
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    Ephedra and acne


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    Has anyone ever heard of a side of effect or anyone getting acne from ephedra? I am trying to research this one because a customer at my store is getting acne after taking it and was thinking its toxins coming out of the body sorta of like if someone did speed. Meth is on a completely different level but it is a good point, just trying to get other information or personal experience and an explanation for this.


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    eeh...I've taken E off and on for about 6yrs for cutters. Never had a problem with it.
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  3. 09-11-2006 08:13 PM
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    I cycle ephedrine every few months and Ive never gotten acne from it. What kind of dose was he taking? I usually build up to 75mg daily but have went up to 150mg and still had no acne.
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  4. 09-12-2006 10:59 PM
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    It's in his head. I never had a problem with E or came acrossed it in any logs prior to my experience. Paranoia is his problem.

    The only possible reason I can think is that he is touching his face too much, and not washing his skin enough. Or maybe he is entering that wonderful time in life when hormones are NATURALLY produced :squat:


    To sum it up: No, it does not cause acne.

    HL
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  5. 09-13-2006 08:00 PM
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    When my wife takes it,she tends to touch her face more often than normal,and she breaks out.Acne type breakout,not yer regular 'ol pimples

    She has since switched to plain old green tea(CNW),and is once again enjoying her complexion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgoonian
    When my wife takes it,she tends to touch her face more often than normal,and she breaks out.Acne type breakout,not yer regular 'ol pimples

    She has since switched to plain old green tea(CNW),and is once again enjoying her complexion.
    Green Tea extract goes well with Ephedrine+Caffeine
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  7. 09-13-2006 08:31 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    Green Tea extract goes well with Ephedrine+Caffeine

    Shhhhhh!
    I have assumed control of the ECA in my household.

    Seriously though,i do love the green tea with Ephedrine,It's a shame it affects my wife the way it does.
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  8. 09-14-2006 03:18 PM
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    I've never noticed a problem if I had one.

    EC + EGCG is a great stack. Capsaicin is a nice addition as well IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_Stuart
    Has anyone ever heard of a side of effect or anyone getting acne from ephedra? I am trying to research this one because a customer at my store is getting acne after taking it and was thinking its toxins coming out of the body sorta of like if someone did speed. Meth is on a completely different level but it is a good point, just trying to get other information or personal experience and an explanation for this.

    While there are all types of toxic substances associated with methamphetamine use, the skin blemishes seen on meth. addicts (whether on the face or on other parts of the body) are not so much related to the toxins as it to the addicts constantly picking at themselves. It's not acne per se that cause the very visible skin blemishes with meth. use, but the constant picking at their skin that cause the problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMan
    While there are all types of toxic substances associated with methamphetamine use, the skin blemishes seen on meth. addicts (whether on the face or on other parts of the body) are not so much related to the toxins as it to the addicts constantly picking at themselves. It's not acne per se that cause the very visible skin blemishes with meth. use, but the constant picking at their skin that cause the problems.
    Could it be that it was this persons 1st time using ephedrine? Perhaps it was too much for him and it gave him a nervous compulsion like touching his face too much?
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    My wife is currently taking lipodrene and 200mg caffeine twice a day. She is also breaking out with acne. So it is not in someones head. Everything effects peole differently. Furthermore she does not want to stop because of the positive effects.

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    This is a pretty in depth journal based off of clinical studies about the side effects of ephedra, and not once did it say anything about acne.

    http://www.ahrq.gov/downloads/pub/ev...ra/ephedra.pdf

    475 pages of descriptions.... with the vainity of American trying to look better by losing weight, only a few would sacrifice the ugliness of acne. I think there would have been a study on it at some point or another.

    But who knows!!! That sh*t is banned anyway, right? No more studies from the good ol' USA, that's for sure
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  13. 09-14-2006 09:24 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by HairyLarry35
    This is a pretty in depth journal based off of clinical studies about the side effects of ephedra, and not once did it say anything about acne.

    http://www.ahrq.gov/downloads/pub/ev...ra/ephedra.pdf

    475 pages of descriptions.... with the vainity of American trying to look better by losing weight, only a few would sacrifice the ugliness of acne. I think there would have been a study on it at some point or another.

    But who knows!!! That sh*t is banned anyway, right? No more studies from the good ol' USA, that's for sure
    I completly understand where you are comming from. I am just stating the facts of my wife's situation. maybe it is something in the Lipodrene, maybe she is a one in a million case. What ever it is when she is off the eca stack the acne goes away. She has been a personal trainer for 16 yrs and she on ly breaks out when doing an eca stack. Her diet changes a little but other than that everything stays the same. Go figure?

    I forgot to mention that she only breaks out for the first 2 weeks. Then it goes away.

    Epherdrine HCL is not banned. FYI. You can still get 25mg x 200 caps for $50.

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  14. 09-14-2006 10:01 PM
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    Salt Lake Tribune - Ruling upholds ban on ephedra

    Yes, it is banned. But, you are allowed to sell your stock. Search "ephedra ban" and you will see. BTW TNT, I totally believe that there is a possibility your wife may respond to ephedra in such a way. I just have not seen it documented. I did not mean to imply that you were lying. People are allergic to certain things, build resistances and become immune. It can happen. That is probably not the case with your wife, but not enough research has been done for the long term effects or total population effects that ephedra has on people. Unfortunately, it is now un-ethical to test in U.S.A. because of the ban and we won't see any studies out of our country for some time.

    The fact that you and M.S. (the thread starter) have known people with similar experiences, in terms of how they reacted to ephedra, shows that there might just be some things left to study after all.

    Thank God it clears up after 2 weeks for your wife!! Best of luck to you guys and if it's working and you feel good with the results, then more power to you. Just make sure you research the negative effects that I posted and understand the possibilities. Good luck, God bless, and I hope for the best.


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  15. 09-14-2006 11:16 PM
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    I used ephedrine HCL 25 mg and never had acne probs for the duration of my usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    Could it be that it was this persons 1st time using ephedrine? Perhaps it was too much for him and it gave him a nervous compulsion like touching his face too much?
    It is possible, but I wouldn't think it was likely. I would think it would be dose and duration dependent. I do believe it is possible that with high doses, the same side effects could be seen. However, I wouldn't expect this with first time use, unless the high dosages were continued for some duration. Not a bad theory though. If the person was very sensitive to ephedrine or like products, I think it could happen.
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  17. 09-15-2006 10:42 AM
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    MattStuart,

    if by chance you are monitoring for an answer: Do you know what the product was they were using, and at what dose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HairyLarry35
    Salt Lake Tribune - Ruling upholds ban on ephedra

    Yes, it is banned. But, you are allowed to sell your stock. Search "ephedra ban" and you will see.
    Ephedra may be banned, but Ephedrine HCL and sulfate are not and can still be found at your local drugstore.
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  19. 09-15-2006 11:38 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supa Freek 420
    Ephedra may be banned, but Ephedrine HCL and sulfate are not and can still be found at your local drugstore.
    Correct!!!

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  20. 09-15-2006 01:59 PM
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    The first time I ever took an ECY stack I broke out with acne. It was odd as I never had it even as a teenager. I put it down to the change in diet, extra excercise and other factors that my body was going through.
    Usually when you are taking a product like E you change many variables in your lifestyle so it may or may not be related.
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