Natural Anabolic Stack?
- 08-17-2006, 11:18 AM
- 08-17-2006, 11:38 AM
Don't know that I'd necessarily consider that natural, or anything beyond food and working out natural for that matter. But I get the gist of what you're looking for. I'd say either cissus, PowerFull or Symmetry from USP, or a combo of one or more of those three, should be a cornerstone for any natural stack of this type. USP puts out the best herbal products I've seen or used, and I think you'll find most people here agree with that statement. Also ALRI's Jungle Warfare seems to be doing pretty good and would I guess fall in the natural category as there are no illegal or grey market steroids in it.
- 08-17-2006, 11:48 AM
I had little response from either ZMA or Trib. I'd take that cash and get a replacement. My next purchase will be Anagen or some other ECDY product.
08-17-2006, 12:46 PM
I'm not a fan of the trib either but I like the zma and its cheap. if you already have the 6oxo then use it but if not look at the other products.
08-17-2006, 07:11 PM
I should have said this in my first post, I've used 6-oxo before and it worked great. I just haven't used all three of these products in conjunction with each other. I was thinking of using Novedex XT and just taking one capsule per day, as I've read it can really shut down estrogen. I've used trib before and I've responded to it so I think it'll stay in and it's very cheap. The ZMA is in there just for the sleep aid. I figure the more restful sleep I get, the more testosterone I'll have.
08-17-2006, 11:56 PM
Sounds like you know what you want to do.
I don't see any contraindications with these products....and if you've taken them all before then you know that you're not likely to have any adverse reactions.
08-18-2006, 12:00 AM
I would throw creatine into the mix. I personally didn't get the same restful sleep out of ZMA after about 1 month of continous use but I really like REM as a great sleep aid.
08-18-2006, 09:43 AM
Something I've started and love is stacking CEE powder and AAKG powder, about 2 grams/serving twice a day. The pumps are definitely intense.
08-18-2006, 09:52 AM
whenever i took zma i used the now nutrition version, it worked for me. i went from feeling sluggish to literally jumping out of bed and getting ready for work at 6 a.m. you might try fenotest by scivation, there are some logs on here if you want some feedback. good luck bro
08-18-2006, 11:28 AM
Damn, am I the only one who thinks PowerFull or Symmetry is a good idea here? The stuff trumps tribulus by country mile to say the least when it comes to herbals. And if this guy wants to raise his test levels and not get an extract that's in and of itself beneficial, why has no one mentioned ActivaTe or nettle root in general?
Come on guys, there's a hell of a lot more options for a good natural stack than tribulus and 6 oxo these days.
08-18-2006, 04:11 PM
im going to recommend the restore/alpha drive XL stack ... controls almost every aspect. add in a high protein diet, good sleep, maybe CEE and high dose of EAA or BCAA and watch yourself grow bro.
08-18-2006, 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by CDB
Yes, there are a lot better options but if you look at his responses to the early posts, he's not looking for better options. He's asking whether anyone thinks he'll have a problem with this particular stack he's essentially decided upon.
08-19-2006, 12:23 AM
i see, im still standing by what i posted earlier if you didnt purchase those products yet but i dont think youll see much gains except a little from the 6-oxo. try to sell the trib. online or in your gym. i'd keep the zma if you already have it, if not - its not worth the money IMO. these are my personal experiences from trying these products and for the same price as tribulus and zma, you can get a much better product that provides better results.Originally Posted by yeahright
cant hurt to try this stack if you already bought it. it reminds me of an old natural stack right ergo released 6oxo and trib/zma was still big. technology advances.
08-19-2006, 12:25 AM
625mg Trib won't do jack. You need to run it much higher to get any results. 3 or 4 grams per day.
08-19-2006, 01:03 AM
That stack doesn't look like it would really do much. Throw in something from cissus, rebound+activate (NHA), Jungle Warfare, anagen, powerfull, etc. for a more effective product stack. If you haven't bought the items already I'd say save your money for something else. If you have bought them already, I suspect the addition of activate would really rev up the results you see from the rest of the products already in the stack.
08-19-2006, 11:11 AM
I'm with CDB - Powerfull and Symmetry.
Or Rebound Reloaded.
08-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Powerfull, Activate and low dose of a steroidal AI. Add DHEA if over 30.
Feels like taking a low dose of test along with phenominal sleep. My $.02
08-19-2006, 01:19 PM
Thanks for all the responses. I'll have to look up this symetry stuff.
08-19-2006, 02:00 PM
If what you're going for in the stack though is a testosterone increase, and it sounds like that from your original stack, nettle root extract or DS's ActivaTe would be a very good addition to the 6 Oxo. The Symmetry or PowerFULL would be an addition to that basic stack. There's also longjack and fenugreek which might make better substitutes for the trib or could be run along side it.Originally Posted by blahblah192
08-19-2006, 02:30 PM
I'm personally not a fan of Activate/nettle root for anything outside of DHT/prostate help.
08-19-2006, 03:26 PM
Why is that? DS seems to have supported the divanyl/SHBG claim well enough and there seems to be enough positive feedback on the NHA stack and its variants. I don't think the NHA stack is a good long term thing though, especially if you're using the original Rebound. But I think with 6 Oxo it would be okay for a longer period of time.Originally Posted by jmh80
08-19-2006, 03:45 PM
In my experience, it was like Powerfull - but less effective and for a bit more (maybe $2).
I think others have had better results from Activate. I didn't.
(I've tried the beta version and the bulk powder version from Custom - no real difference.)
08-19-2006, 05:12 PM
Ah, cost. Well, yeah, I guess that does eventually have to come into the equation doesn't it? Kinda messes up the fantasy though.Originally Posted by jmh80
If I ever win big money I'm securing it all except for a small portion, which I will secure seperately, invest it in something safe and use the income to buy supplements.
08-19-2006, 06:05 PM
And top tier "escorts".Originally Posted by CDB
08-19-2006, 06:25 PM
Word @ BP.
I'd be on a quest to find the chick in my sig.
08-22-2006, 02:57 AM
I love powerfull n crx. I'm just looking for some more, maybe activate and anagen next month. Just need to find out what each one does, i don't want a ton of estra blockers,. a variety would be nice.
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