Wow, I read through that thread fairly quickly, and it appears that someone started it with a letter bashing Venom HD. There will always be those that bash, so I'll leave it alone.
As to your question with JMH, I can say that I've heard of this issue with all stimulants at high enough dosages. Hell, I myself have experience this before. A few stims, and a pot or 2 of coffee throughout the day has a definite effect on some. I call it "shrinkage". But again, that is a large amount of stims and caffeine throughout the day. Others are not effected by this.
I can tell you that taking Venom HD at the correct dosage does not give me this issue, along with a coffee or 2 during the day.
Not a few pots of coffee.
As far as relationships of an AI and Venom HD interaction? I doubt seriously that there is any issue there. If you're coming off a cycle and using Venom HD and an AI product, I would think it had more to do with the cycle shutdown, not the AI and/or Venom HD. Hopefully this makes sense to you as I tried explaining my perspective on the situation.
I went back and found one of the threads, referenced below. JHM80 had a reference to "Vemon d***" and after rereading it I think I may have read into the responses that followed that it was an interaction with an AI, rather than a result of the AI itself. If I work out about 5 PM, and it sounds like I need to take Venom fairly early in the day, is it possilbe that I could still use a pre-workout stim? I recall there are some pretty serious warnings on the Venom label - heart attack, etc. By pre-workot stim I mean Redline, Amp, ECA. Thanks.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/47815-venom-5.html?highlight=venom
