BEST Pre-Workout Product.

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  1. BEST Pre-Workout Product.


    Hey everybody,

    I've tried a number of different pre-workout supplements:
    Storm + Shock Therapy, Horse Power, V12, NO Shotgun, No-Xplode, Green Bulge, White Blood, SAN Fierce, Nitrocharge, the list goes on people.

    Everytime, I have found something I do not like about it. Whether it be taste, dosing, ingredients or price I just can't find ONE and STICK TO IT!

    One thing I do not like is how alot of the blends contain Glycocymine. I've read that this is not a compound that should be ingested on a regular basis. Whether or not that's accurate I don't know for sure, but I'm not going to risk it.

    My next one I try is going to be AI Chaos, as it seems to be dosed nicely and is a great flavor: lemon tea.

    I'm curious to see what everybody uses, if anything, for a pre-workout product. creatine/pump/amino blend. I'd like to hear some discussion on what's the best stuff to have in it, because theres so many products out there...


  2. I'm using AI Chaos right now. It is just as effective as NO-Explode for about 2/3 the price C2 by USP is good too.
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  3. Chaos
    focus xt
    nuerostim+C
    all do good for me

  4. There should be a multi-pronged approach, when making a pre-workout product:

    Creatines
    A staple in most of these supplements, it should be the backbone of the product.
    Good compounds:

    CEE
    Creatine Mono
    di-creatine malate
    Magnesium Creatine Chelate


    Not-So-Good:

    Kre-Alkylyn - not enough feedback, anecdotal or otherwise
    Betaine Anhydrous/Glycocyamine - The 4 to 1 ratio, plus the studies I've seen, I wouldn't want these to be in my product I"m using.


    Pump!
    Of course you need a good pump...such as:

    Arginine AEE
    AAKG
    Arginine Malate
    Citrulline Malate
    L-Norvaline
    L-Ornithine
    L-Taurine


    Anti-Oxidants
    I beleive that with the presence of Nitric-oxide related compounds you need to combat free radicals. One or more of the following would be nice:

    R-ALA
    NAC
    EGCG
    Grape Seed Extract


    Stimulants
    To keep your energy levels going.

    Caffeine
    Vitamin C, B6, B12
    Ginseng (i'm surprised more compounds dont include this! its cheap and effective)
    Chocamine


    Aminos
    I can see we're getting costly here, but a small matrix of aminos would be very helpful.

    L-Leucine
    L-Valine
    L-Isoleucine
    L- Lysine
    Glutamine/Taurine/Arginine


    To top it off, 10g complex carb. If a product covered all of these bases I think I would pay a good amount of money for it, because it would replace 3-4 different products I use now to get it all.

    From my research, it would seem that combining an Amino Acid Complex such as Xtend or Excell, which has the main aminos, vitamin B-6 for energy and cirtulline for pumps, combined with a product that had a stimulant, good matrix of creatine and antioxidants would be our best bet.

  5. I've got bulk AAKG on the way and I'll stack it with CEE to see what happens.
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  6. Maybe AI will come out with something. Otherwise, Custom Capsule, the new sponsor is a possibility. I think you can make your own.

  7. I would say try Kryptonite but its rather pricey. Other than that all ive had is NO-xplode which was good. Yellow swarms are also good, and ive also tried hyperdrive 3.0 which was fabulous. I just never got around to ordering more.

    For the record, I just saw your multipronged approach. I believe kryptonite has something, or many things from each category, but it definitely does NOT have caffeine. Just a pointer.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf
    Maybe AI will come out with something. Otherwise, Custom Capsule, the new sponsor is a possibility. I think you can make your own.

    Actually, AI's Excell + Chaos is looking to be where its at. All I need is to add in some Anti-oxidants and I'll be set to go.

    The Custom capsule company is very interesting to me. I can't wait to tell my girlfriend "You know how I'm always switching my supplements around, trying new ones? well now I'm going to make my own"

  9. I use XCEED + 3 Basic Cuts, or Body Octane + Orotine + 3 Basic Cuts.
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  10. Update:

    I decided to go with Ultimate Nutrition's HorsePower product. After reading all day, the price, serving amount and flavor (lemon lime) hooked me. It also had some good logs/reviews over at BB.com. There were a few things I did not like about it, it contained Glycocyamine, Kre-Alk, and had no stimulants, but it does have some anti-oxidants, a slew of different creatines and a good pump matrix. I recommend looking into this product if your interested. I tried a few Free-samples last week and enjoyed it. Heres the matrix:

    Serving Size: 1 Scoop (20g)
    Servings Per Container: 50

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories 12
    Total Carbohydrate 3 g
    Sugars 2 g

    Kre-Alkalyn 1.5 g
    Creatine Ethyl Ester 1.1 g
    Tri-Creatine Malate 1.5 g
    Betaine Hydrochloride 2 g
    Taurine (micronized) 2 g
    N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine 1.1 g

    NO Power Blend 4000 mg
    (Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate, Arginine Ethyl Ester Dihydrochloride)

    HorsePower Blend: 5800mg
    (Beta-Alanine, Glycerol Monostearate, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Citrulline Ethyl Ester Malate, L-Norvaline, Guanidinopropionic Acid, Gynostemma Pentaphyllum, Ornithine Alpha Ketoglutarate, Arginine Ketoisocaproate, R-Alpha Lipoic Acid, Rutaecarpine, and Glycocyamine)

  11. Ready for War!!!
    It is the only stim that gets me going!

  12. i really liked xpand, good price (gotta find the right store) and ingredient profile. although there are 2 different ones, one has a small amount of bcaa's while another doesnt.

  13. Is there a (legally obtainable) product out there that mimics or stimulates production of adrenaline because if there was, that would be the BEST stimulant hands down.

  14. The combination I'm using right now is killer. I am taking Clout, Xcell, Neurostim+C and supercarb prior to workouts right now. This provides stellar energy, focus and recovery between worksets.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    I use XCEED + 3 Basic Cuts, or Body Octane + Orotine + 3 Basic Cuts.
    I LOVE Basic Cuts preworkout! Nothing like smiling while youíre lifting And with the cayenne pepper in it you always know just about when itís about to kick in heheh. Also its the cheapest premade stim I have ever bought.

  16. I'm using Xceed + Amp pre-workout. It's pretty good in my opinion. Waiting to try my Primed + RegenerationX though! Then it's off to Supercharged Chaos!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by dagecko
    I'm using Xceed + Amp pre-workout. It's pretty good in my opinion. Waiting to try my Primed + RegenerationX though! Then it's off to Supercharged Chaos!
    How do you like taking AMP preworkout? I could never do that. I think I get a weird reaction to it. I tried again to take AMP and it made me tired and gave me a big headache and now 12 hours later I feel hung-over It tends to give me too much focus as well. I guess itís hit or miss with that product. Itís like thereís only 2 kinds of people when it comes to AMP, people who like and it and the ones who donít.

  18. AI Chaos 30 mins pre-workout, Gaspari SizeOn with AI Excell durin workout.

    Just try this for 2 weeks...I promise you will not be disappointed

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Skyblue
    Is there a (legally obtainable) product out there that mimics or stimulates production of adrenaline because if there was, that would be the BEST stimulant hands down.
    L-Tyrosine when taken in proper dosages can help regulate your Thryoid giving you stable enegry levels and also produces dopamine and epinephrine

  20. I love my amp, but it doesn't do what it used to, i might stack that with something else preworkout. There is a great list here, i might try a couple with my next order. Amp gets me focused, i need something to get me fukn pumpd ready for war if you will, might try that one.

    Amp is a must to try, and if you keep it occasional it should give you what you need.

  21. I'm loving 3 X MAN Scorch + 25mg Ephedrine
    I also rate Get Diesel Ready4War pre.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf
    Maybe AI will come out with something. Otherwise, Custom Capsule, the new sponsor is a possibility. I think you can make your own.
    I have seen a number of guys are mixing EXCELL(BCAAs) with Chaos.

    Would this include all he had in the list?


    CROWLER
    Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
    HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
    Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
    Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade

  23. I will vouch for the Chaos... I am currently running it, and when I hit the gym, I have alot of energy.. I workout for two hours and I am not even ready to go home yet..I know I am working out to long, but I just have to do it... Its good stuff.. Give it a try. Good energy, good pumps, and good focus .

  24. Ok well this is prehaps the absolute best perhaps only used for bodybuilding competions, back in my party days i tried a few Research chemicals, 5 amt seemed to cause a aderlin rush and is umm legal to have....

    Bravo Trading Ltd.


    If this is considered breaking the rules please edit post.

    Thanks and hopefully this helps

    ( i do not reccomend anyone use without proper research and talking to there doctor first, nor do i condon the use of any research drug , please know your countrys laws/regulations.)

    Thanks Dr liftalot

    Bravo Trading Ltd.
    Erowid


    Stuff is pretty intense, i tried some along time ago and wow i seriously felt i could lift any amount of weight and run forever.

    Endless energy enough said.

  25. Um, interesting link but I really don't think that's appropriate given the board's rules. And besides, the site states that they don't ship to US or Canada which makes it useless for a huge segment of the board population.
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