Anyone experienced good things with this compund? What about water retention? Any comments are greatly appreciated!!
Yep, that's true, maybe they added sugar in the drink mix to have a better effect on creatine uptake?The thing that is interesting is the main reason why they say creatine gluconate works is because they basically attached creatine to a glucose molecule and when it is cleaved it leaves you with creatine and glucose byproducts. However, say you took 3g of CG, you would be getting < 3g of glucose and I seriously doubt that this amount of glucose would "drive creatine into the cells" like they say.
Even if they did that would defeat the purpose of using CEE pre workout. You would basically have to use it after a workout or at some other point in the day. Adding sugar (increasing insulin) before a workout inhibits fatty acid oxidation and switches to a glucose burning effect, which causes less fat loss during a workout. It is the "old school" mentality of using a lot of sugar with creating. Muscle Tech anyone?Yep, that's true, maybe they added sugar in the drink mix to have a better effect on creatine uptake?
Not CM but CG (creatine gluconate). And yes we are running test trials with the new supercharged version.So Lake Mount, are you saying that your running some beta test trials of Chaos substituting the CEE for CM? If so, then keep us informed of what comes up. Hopefully you want mind providing us with a really good objective view of these two types of creatine.
What about water retention? Feeling bloated a little ?It's good, I feel it for sure, I was taking GREEN MAGnitude, it has 2.5 each of Magnesium Creatine Chelate, Dicreatine Malate and other things, it's really good, but taking the CG around 3 grams I'm getting better strength, volume, and pump...I have used it four days now, and will for sure continue using CG or CG products, I really think it may be the one that can take over the top from CEE...
What about water retention? Feeling bloated a little ?
I found that I gained quite a bit of weight from Size On... it was not a controlled experiement, but with all things being the same, I did not feel bloated but I gained somewhere between 3-5 lbs in a week on it. After ~30 days I was up by about 10 lbs.
I was not able to test the strength aspect due to some tendonitis that I had to deal with.
I am heading back to the gym tomorrow after almost two weeks off, so I will report in after a week or two.
I seem to be a non-responder to CEE, although I do ok with monohydrate.
Regards,
R
Bro, no offense but I can assure you that there were lurking variables in this. Most people don't even gain 10lbs in a month with androgens let alone with size-on.
how is strength?You know what is weird, I'm on a low carb right now, been losing about 2-3 lbs a week, been trying to figure out what is going on, I"ve gained 3 lbs since I started CG, but seem to still be losing bf%, it's early to tell if that's the case, but been trying to pin down why my bodyweight is going up, I guess it could be more water retained?
best way to see if it works for you is to try it.It looks like it works for everyone, but I am still wondering if this is better than CEE for gains..
Hi LakeMountD,Bro, no offense but I can assure you that there were lurking variables in this. Most people don't even gain 10lbs in a month with androgens let alone with size-on.
That's good bro. I might get some... Still debating..lolI thought I would add my entirely anecdotal experience to this discourse. About a week ago I started dosing Size-On immediately pre-WO and thus far I am fairly impressed. Though I am currently on a cycle of androgens I have been on it long enough to differentiate the effects of the Test alone vs. Test + Size On. I feel the added muscular endurance during my workouts and a slight decrease in recovery time, both between sets and sessions. However, I should state that this could very well be the gentle progression of the Testosterone, but I am confident the Size On is having a measurable effect.
Meh, it was free for me so why not. To me, the concept of bonding the salt based Creatine Ion to a glucose ion seems sound in terms of initial absorption, but in terms of raised mitochondrial response...not to sold on that.That's good bro. I might get some... Still debating..lol
Free? I would try anything for free..haha but yeah, I don't think the small leftover of glucose will make a difference. Maybe the alcohool leftover from CEE reduced a little the effectiveness, but I guess it's working pretty good so far.Meh, it was free for me so why not. To me, the concept of bonding the salt based Creatine Ion to a glucose ion seems sound in terms of initial absorption, but in terms of raised mitochondrial response...not to sold on that.
Haven't tried it, but it should be similar to CEE, so only 3g is needed for most.also how much is needed 5 grams right?
Great to have some feedback on it Thanksupdate:
I've been on Cg for about two weeks now, strength is for sure up, lastnight on Mil Press I put 4x45's on the bar and got 7,6,8 reps vs 3 weeks ago I could only do 6 reps had to drop the weight, 2 weeks ago, couldn't get 1 rep, last week couldn't get it pressed, each of those times I had to drop weight down to 185 to continue and had solid 8's there. I don't think all the strength is Cg, started androgel about the sametime, so maybe more that...I'm also on very low carb right now, with carb up only 1 meal every 14 days.
Sidenote: Creatine Gluconate taste good, I dump it in my mouth and wash it down, I really like the taste...
What doses do you use? Pre/Post on workout days and once on non work out days?update:
I've been on Cg for about two weeks now, strength is for sure up, lastnight on Mil Press I put 4x45's on the bar and got 7,6,8 reps vs 3 weeks ago I could only do 6 reps had to drop the weight, 2 weeks ago, couldn't get 1 rep, last week couldn't get it pressed, each of those times I had to drop weight down to 185 to continue and had solid 8's there. I don't think all the strength is Cg, started androgel about the sametime, so maybe more that...I'm also on very low carb right now, with carb up only 1 meal every 14 days.
Sidenote: Creatine Gluconate taste good, I dump it in my mouth and wash it down, I really like the taste...
What doses do you use? Pre/Post on workout days and once on non work out days?
Ok so far i seem to like CEE better....
I will definetly purchase Chaos if/when made with CG.Not CM but CG (creatine gluconate). And yes we are running test trials with the new supercharged version.
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